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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2019 15:34

IMO everything’s been staged to get a six week break so they can go and make money in the US giving interviews etc.

Please don't even go there, Bluebells Hmm I posted yesterday saying I genuinely hope some time out would give them a chance to get their act into gear and hopefully gain some peace of mind. I fully realise they already spend two thirds of the year not working, but still believe a break would be worth it if it helps

Using the time to chisel some money/fame in the US would be something else again ...

GrimDamnFanjo · 21/10/2019 15:38

I think they need to stop, take time out, think about what they want to do. I'm assuming they are independently wealthy and don't need to earn their keep?

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 15:39

Hypocritical? Don’t know. I’m not interested in watching members of RF doing their thing- I’m a Republican. I only watch for the frocks, or if they’re doing something with a cause I have a particular interest in. Which is why I started being interested in Meghan. Her interests chimed with mine and I loved her wedding dress.

Mummy195 · 21/10/2019 15:39

BlueRussian
Some parts of the article claim the RF is horrified. Some parts it's will be horrified. So which one is it?
The whole article must be written by the interns. The worst dross you can come up with. They sounded a bit desperate actually.

They also claim that Meghan banned the public from taking pics at Wimbledon. Her security did that, no evidence of her giving such an order.

The press are clearly quaking in their boots about the hacking scandal and keep referring to the old case. But that is unlikely, because 6 years have passed, so likely there is a new hacking scandal. And when Harry said, if everyone knew what I know, I am guessing there is more to the story. They are just trying to throw everyone off the scent and will act surprised when the revelations come out.

Then they pretend H&M are the divisive ones. yeah right.

Apparently the press throws a few scraps their way in terms of good publicity and they must be so greatfull. Well actually they always do a good job when out working.

Then they go on about the RF supporters of Meghan, like Charles and TQ, as if they did not already publicly show their support of her. PC at wedding in role of father, and the TQ allowing her to represent some of her favourite charities.

THen they twist her words saying there is no tabloids in the US, when she said 'they don't have that' - ie .that they don't lie and tear down for the sake of destroying your life, not at this extent, not at such blatant lies and racism.
They go on about her having scrutiny as an actress and PH should have warned her - bet he didn't see this much racism coming though, none of the RF would have. And no, she was not torn into this much when she was an actress.

The tax payers demand to see their baby and home - since when did we keep slaves again? Everyone works and goes home after, that's their right. Sharing a few pics on IG to fans who care, does not mean you owe your life to the public.

He is being honest about his relationship with his brother, and won't pretend they never ever disagree, but he said they always love each other and are on a different path. Normal for siblings really, not exactly news.

Meghan also never named anyone as asking or not regarding her wellbeing, just insinuations from Daily Heil on who did and did not.

THen there is the comparison to K&W. Saying they looked happy. Really, cause W could not look less interested in K even though she was giving speeches for the first time in ages. She kept looking towards him, I guess for reassurance, and he would not even look up. No closeness or much handholding either this time.
For that matter, quite telling that KM, has suddenly upped her game and is wearing traditional clothes, and giving speeches lately.

Piss Moron and Daily Klan really scraping the bottom of the barrel this time.

Bluerussian · 21/10/2019 15:44

Mummy 195 - that is one heck of a good post! I hope more Mumsnet people take note of that than any tabloid article.

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MauritiusNext · 21/10/2019 15:50

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TheNanny23 · 21/10/2019 15:52

I don’t think it’s fair to say other royals don’t have a ‘human connection’. Zara and Mike come across well with their girls. I thought Eugenie came across well talking about her own spinal surgery and visiting the orthopaedic hospital.

Beatrice and Eugenie got blasted when they appeared in a magazine talking about how hard it is to be working princesses- it just is not what the public want to hear from the royal family. Not liking the way Harry and Meghan are coming across is not automatically racism!

They probably would be criticised if they lay low and don’t do many duties but so has every other Working member of the royal family- when William and Kate lives on Anglesey they got criticised. But at least most of the time they could get on with their lives like a normal young couple. Harry and Meghan need to take a break, concentrate on being a family, and then gradually increase their workload again.

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BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 15:55

“ Because that is exactly the kind of speculative crap that they come out with.”
As opposed to the speculative crap they come out with about Meghan? Grin

Mummy195 · 21/10/2019 16:01

MauritiusNext

Do you know what a slave is ?
I am a descendent of slaves, so are my children and their father. And infact he also comes from recent apartheid oppression. I have lived and worked with these people pretty much all my life.

So don't call me goudy, are you from Mauritius yourself? You should know better.

Mummy195 · 21/10/2019 16:02

Mauritius

And that is all you could pick up from the whole long post?

Cerseirys · 21/10/2019 16:03

But that's all true @BertrandRussell. Tabloids talking about how Meghan demanded her staff wake at dawn to draw her a bath? Must be true as they wouldn't print stuff unless it was. The same tabloids alleging William had an affair? No never, can't possibly be true!

MauritiusNext · 21/10/2019 16:24

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Blingandrings · 21/10/2019 17:20

I was in the supermarket today and the Sun has a huge front page splash about the 'feud' between Harry and William. Really not the result they were looking for i am sure. Harry's cryptic comments have just started the whole merry go round up again. I am not sure what Tom B hoped to achieve by pushing so hard for personal revelations. He hasn't done them any favours.

MauritiusNext · 21/10/2019 17:21

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IrmaFayLear · 21/10/2019 17:29

Yes - utterly bizarre how it's ok to speculate about K&W's marriage but absolutely terrible to even mention H&M in anything less than glowing terms. Read your posts, people!

Mummy195 · 21/10/2019 17:30

You called me goady for asking about slaves. And I thought if you were a native Mauritian you would probably know better.

But you are a tourist.

Mummy195 · 21/10/2019 17:37

What's bizarre is how you acknowledge that I made speculations , yet you take what is printed about MM as fact.

Even worse, you seem fine with the press which reaches out all over the world to tell lies, twists and speculations.

Grinchly · 21/10/2019 17:57

Tom B will have been primed probably without the involvement of their advisers to ask those questions. He's an old friend.

Hence I suspect the standing up late evening interviews rather than a sit down somewhere more formal.

Tacking the self confessional interviews onto the African tour together with the announcement of legal proceedings was so fantastically ill/advised I can't imagine any professional PR having set it up.

History is repeating itself.

I can't remember any names of charities either apart from Halo Trust which was supported by Diana.

FWIW, I think it was quite genuine though. In fact M's comments sounded more sincere than a lot of her other on camera work (Doubtless they are sincerely meant but there is something about her over emphatic delivery that rings hollow to me. We all know the cliche about ' it's not what you say it's how you say it' but M takes this to extremes in my view.)

They have imported celebrity- brand driven PR to a publically funded institution and it really isn't working.

I feel for them on a human level, but in public- it should not be all about them.

Now the brothers' rift Harry's mental health, a possible move abroad and Meghan's lonely struggles have become the story - this time in their own words- totalling eclipsing the charities they went to support.

NightOwl27 · 21/10/2019 18:50

This is pure speculation but Meghan probably had post-natal depression/anxiety. Not at all surprising for FTMs and all her privilege doesn't shield her from it as so much is purely physical. She appeared slightly shell-shocked in that first Archie video wearing the white dress, and definitely not the same confident pregnant version of herself. Maybe she had birth trauma/injury, breastfeeding problems, a colicky baby, insomnia, whatever. All incredibly common things that many mothers face and no amount of money can fix those.

Her sudden trip to watch tennis in New York felt like a "need to be alone and get away from it all" moment. And this sounds very superficial (apologies in advance) but she didn't lose her baby weight as fast as she probably wanted. Her recent outfits always looked a bit awkward, like they're trying to force a slimmer figure with strained/belted tops cinching in the stomach or extremely high heels to draw attention to skinnier legs. Of course, most women learn to accept or adapt to their pp bodies but if your job is based on being appearance then it would add another layer of stress. Not to mention a SIL with the magical power of popping out babies and then snapping back skinnier than before pregnancy.

Meghan was probably the more stable/robust person in the relationship ad helped Harry through a lot of his issues. However the dynamics changed after Archie and now both are flaking around the edges. I do believe that they live in a gilded cage because no amount of taxpayers money, private jets and celebrity friends can replace the love & support from family. Both come from highly dysfunctional families and seem to getting more estranged by the day (W&K rift). They probably felt they could create their own little happy family but realised it's not as easy as it looks. Having a baby clearly strained the relationship and brought a lot of past issues up, especially for Harry.

Two people struggling with MH issues combined with press intrusion and the need to appear perfect and holier-than-thou for their social media/work commitments seems like a powder keg situation.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2019 18:52

Oh great, so now the BBC's reporting that a KP source says William's worried about H&M being "in a fragile place"

If it's true at all it's probably spin - "don't blame me, I showed I cared about them" - but is there no end to this madness??

HarryDaylight · 21/10/2019 18:55

It's carcrash PR.

Their unhappiness is now feeding the press and media that they profess to despise.

I wonder how they view the British public who are reading and commenting on social media?

wondering7777 · 21/10/2019 18:58

In Harry and Meghan's engagement interview, Harry says how keen William was to meet Meghan when she and Harry got together, and how Meghan and Harry have met up with William and Kate a number of times. Meghan even says how Kate has been "so supportive" and that the whole of Harry's family have. Ut sounded like they were on good terms at that stage - I wonder what (if anything) went wrong?

wondering7777 · 21/10/2019 19:00

Sorry, that should be "and that the whole of Harry's family have been amazing. It sounded like..."

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