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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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TinklyLittleLaugh · 21/10/2019 13:39

Thing is they are so very privileged compared to....well just about everyone, that this whinging is totally off key.

I have no fucks to give about either of them.

CoolCarrie · 21/10/2019 13:42

That documentary should have been about South Africa, about the suffering of women and children here, not about them.
I am sorry but they need to grow a thicker skin, and Princess Diana was no saint, both in her private behaviour and her courting the press. He should look to the bloody terrible way his father treated his mother. The press didn’t kill Diana, sadly she died because of her own bad decisions, lack of a seat belt being the main one, but Harry clearly cannot or will not see that
. Too much sunlight on the Royal Family will help end it someone once said years ago, and it’s coming true now.

IrmaFayLear · 21/10/2019 13:45

I read that advice is being given by the Palace but it's not being heeded. That advice has been, as others have surmised, to keep their heads down, smile, wave etc etc... until they drift out of public focus. But that advice is being ignored.

Harry is the equivalent of Princess Margaret, ie sibling of (future) monarch. I think once she married her dcs were able to grow up without too much public intrusion or in fact the public giving two hoots.

I think the best thing is to take extended leave from any duties and to leave all social media. Everyone will soon lose interest.

mrscampbellblackagain · 21/10/2019 13:50

Quite interesting podcast with the BBC royal correspondent Jonny Dymond. He comments that Harry clearly hates the press and alludes to a very rude comment Harry made on the plane back from the Australian tour. I guess he is being honest in how he deals with the press but does he really think he can continue behaving like that for the next however many years.

The stress of having to deal with a group of people whom you loathe everytime you go 'to work' must be horrible for him. Lets face it if he is rude to the Royal Correspondents (not the stalker type paparazzi) then he is going to struggle to get positive press coverage.

Bluerussian · 21/10/2019 13:51

I've just re-read the Mail article and can hardly believe the mountains that paper is making out of molehills! It's appalling. The trouble is that so many regular Mail readers believe what they read in that rag, the way things are written is quite persuasive to some people. My dear old mother in law used to buy the Mail and seemed to take the articles for gospel - we took the mick out of her over it, bless her, but I do think it is really a dangerous newspaper. None of them are above reproach of course.

LaurieMarlow · 21/10/2019 13:52

I read that advice is being given by the Palace but it's not being heeded.

And where did you read that?

NormaBean · 21/10/2019 13:54

That documentary should have been about South Africa, about the suffering of women and children here, not about them.

This really got my goat.

I usually don’t mind the royals, I enjoyed watching the weddings. How two people can have such a lack of awareness to bemoan their own “problems” on a documentary about the various charities they’re supposed to be promoting beggars belief. If they felt the need to give such interviews, perhaps do it on their own time, away from the charities.

You can guarantee we won’t see one article about those charities now, it’ll all be about the ‘rift’ and her ‘vulnerability’.

Tasteless.

CoolCarrie · 21/10/2019 14:05

Harry need to see a psychiatrist, maybe once a week, for as long as he needs to, to get his grief out and find a way of living with it. It isn’t weakness to need help, however we, the public don’t need know his innermost feelings. Our hearts went out to him and William when their mother died, her death was tragic, just as many other people deaths are, he isn’t alone in his feelings, but for his own sake and his wee family he needs outside help.

TartanTexan · 21/10/2019 14:10

He needs his brother’s support & love ideally. Does he have it? How serious is any rift?

TulipsTulipsTulips · 21/10/2019 14:15

I’m sure some aspects are very difficult for Harry and Meghan, but their behaviour is so contradictory (ie hate the press but the feed stories constantly) and they have the means to live in completely luxury away from the spotlight. They seem to have no self awareness over how annoying it is for the public to hear them sounding like victims when they are funded by the public purse. I hope Harry walks away from this high profile lifestyle, but I wonder if Meghan is the right partner for a quiet life. I don’t see this ending well...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2019 14:25

The difference is that in the US, the rags are exactly that. No one takes them seriously, everyone laughs at them and just assumes it's all time killing fluff

Hmmm ... intelligent people perhaps, but I can't count the number of times someone's heard my accent in a supermarket line and said "Ooooo, what do you think of (pointing at the rags) this?"

Or maybe I just go to the wrong supermarkets Grin

You can guarantee we won’t see one article about those charities now, it’ll all be about the ‘rift’ and her ‘vulnerability’

Yes, and knowing the way it would go, that's exactly why Harry should have kept schtum and encouraged his wife to do the same. It really isn't all about them - especially in the context of this particular visit - but they seem not to have got that memo

Jangirl2018 · 21/10/2019 14:34

@TulipsTulipsTulips

I’m sure some aspects are very difficult for Harry and Meghan, but their behaviour is so contradictory (ie hate the press but the feed stories constantly) and they have the means to live in completely luxury away from the spotlight.

How exactly do they feed stories?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2019 14:38

If they felt the need to give such interviews, perhaps do it on their own time, away from the charities

Yes, and this ^^

Personally I'm not keen on this view, but a pal mentioned this morning that instead of them shining a good light on the charities, it's almost as if the charities are being used to shine a good light on them ... and if there's any truth in that at all it's a dangerous road to be going down

OverByYer · 21/10/2019 14:44

Agree with PP.
I don’t recall the names of any of the charities / organisations mentioned during the program

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 14:51

“ don’t recall the names of any of the charities / organisations mentioned during the program”
Grin bet you wouldn’t have even watched it if it hadn’t been for the trailers! I certainly wouldn’t.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 21/10/2019 14:57

@Jangirl2018

The recent ITV documentary about them has lead to a new spate of media articles which don’t cast them in a very good light. I think they would just be better off distancing themselves from the media for awhile.

Jangirl2018 · 21/10/2019 15:09

@TulipsTulipsTulips

Hmmm, not sure that would really make a difference. They are damned if they do, damned if they don’t. If they shy away, they are not fulfilling their duties etc will no doubt be the media angle

Whatever they do OR don’t do is scrutinised unfairly.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 21/10/2019 15:14

@jangirl

No one is bothered about what Prince Edward gets up to, or what Zara does in her spare time, because they aren’t giving media interviews. No one cares what Princess Margaret does either, and she is one of the hardest working royals. I think Harry and Meghan are trying to live like celebrities but it doesn’t work. Instead it reminds the public of how privileged they are and their interviews show how little self-awareness they have.

OverByYer · 21/10/2019 15:19

I think you will find that Princess Margaret is dead Tulips.
And yes Bertrand I only watched for the gossip and to have another peek at Archie

TulipsTulipsTulips · 21/10/2019 15:21

Oh yes- I meant Princess Ann! Well I guess that supports my point...

Jangirl2018 · 21/10/2019 15:22

@TulipsTulipsTulips

No one is bothered what Prince Edward gets up to, or Princess Margaret because they are boring and represent the same old, stiff upper lip with no human connection their family has always represented.

Meghan and Harry have broken away from this, and without even opening their mouths represent something different from the ‘norm’ in regards to the Royal Family. If you think back, Diana was the same. She broke the mould. Does that mean the constant hounding, alongside the vitriol is justified?

One could also argue, that without people like them in the Royal Family the time on this archaic institution will soon be well and truly be up. They are forced to find new ways of relating to the public, and probably internally pressurised to a point do that the money from privy purse can still be justified.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 21/10/2019 15:25

@Jangirl2018

For me, the conflict arises because they have broken away from normal ‘royal’ behaviour but they are publicly funded. It’s not working.

bluebells100 · 21/10/2019 15:25

Imo everything’s been staged to get a six week break so they can go and make money in the US giving interviews etc. More like Kardashian’s than royals. They really need to step down, totally taking the piss.

LaurieMarlow · 21/10/2019 15:28

H&M aren’t ‘giving media interviews’ to publicise spending money to refurb their house ffs.

The media are interested in them. They sell papers. Edward and Anne don’t.

Dongdingdong · 21/10/2019 15:29

bet you wouldn’t have even watched it if it hadn’t been for the trailers! I certainly wouldn’t.

Is that not rather hypocritical? You've written hundreds of posts on the Harry and Meghan threads defending them against the media gossip, and yet the only reason you're interested in watching their programme on telly is for the bits where they discuss the media gossip, thereby adding more fuel to the fire!