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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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Dongdingdong · 20/10/2019 14:00

Watch this old video where she brags about her skill in being able to make herself cry

I dont think she’s acting in the ITV clip - what she says is her truth.

However, if I was advising H&M I would suggest they keep their heads down and carry out all their royal duties with no distractions. That’s the way to get the press on side. Their SA tour was an obvious example - they’d received loads of positive press coverage and then Harry released that statement about the Mail on Sunday, which was like throwing petrol on the fizzling out fire and completely overshadowed all their good work. If they’d just slipped back quietly to England on the back of that tour all would have been well.

I personally quite like Harry and Meghan, but I think they’re either getting very bad advice or not listening to the good advice they’re being given. William and Kate’s advisers seem to do a very good job.

Funghi · 20/10/2019 14:02

I dont think she’s acting in the ITV clip

I think she is, she comes across as very insincere and overly rehearsed.

Horehound · 20/10/2019 15:43

Interesting this thread started about Harry has descended into a thread about Meghan and her sincerity.
Why was it derailed to be about her?

Cerseirys · 20/10/2019 15:48

Any thread about Harry usually is @Horehound. Hell even threads about William's alleged affair or Andrew's dodgy dealings descended into slagging off Meghan!

Horehound · 20/10/2019 15:55

Its really quite horrible!

LaurieMarlow · 20/10/2019 16:02

Because they always do. Because ppl didn’t seem to have much of an issue with Harry until he married a mixed race, American actress.

sniffsneeze · 20/10/2019 16:11

Why do the media have less to say about his dodgy bloody Uncle?

Nearlyalmost50 · 20/10/2019 16:11

Harry needs a good shake, I'm afraid. He's besotted and all his judgment is skewed. He's in a much better position than his wife to know what works and what doesn't, he just doesn't seem to be engaging his brain at all

I don't think he's very bright or strategically astute. I've managed to get through my life without dressing like a Nazi or hot tubbing it with lots of naked men- and I'm not a member of the royal family!

I think a lot of the Royal Family see themselves as victims- Charles and his 'no-one in government listens to my letters', William 'I don't want to be King ' (he looks sulky quite a lot of the time), and Harry and Megan fit into that 'no-one knows how hard it is' narrative. Now I believe it is hard, and I wouldn't want to do it- but if you can't look grateful for the money and the lifestyle and be more sympathetic to genuine victims, it isn't going to play well.

escapade1234 · 20/10/2019 16:12

Why was it derailed to be about her?

Conversations evolve. Any long thread on here goes off at tangents.

Dongdingdong · 20/10/2019 16:16

I've managed to get through my life without dressing like a Nazi or hot tubbing it with lots of naked men- and I'm not a member of the royal family!

It must be incredibly hard growing up in the public eye though. I’m not condoning the Nazi thing - it’s extremely poor taste - but I’m sure we all did silly things as teenagers that we regret and look back on and cringe. The difference is we don’t have them plastered all over the newspapers!

Dongdingdong · 20/10/2019 16:19

The guy who’s made the ITV documentary that’s airing tonight said that Harry looked “incredibly tired and burnt out” on the SA tour - it sounds like they (the Sussexes) do need to step back and regroup.

crispysausagerolls · 20/10/2019 16:40

The clip where she is saying she can cry on cue - it’s not what she is saying, it’s HOW she is saying it! She sounds unbelievably sure of herself, cocky, arrogant and every other synonym for those words under the sun.

The “poor me, I’m struggling” looks so fucking fake in comparison. And even if you believe it, how fucking dare she stand there, surrounded by poverty in the extreme, and whinge about the struggles of, to give one example, being NEWLYWED?!?!

Rinoachicken · 20/10/2019 16:40

I hope that amongst all the advice that’s no doubt being given to them, that Meghan has NOT been advised to maybe look to mumsnet as a place of potential anonymous support as a new mother.

What ever else her faults, she ha a new mother, who, because of her situation, is not able to access support from other new mothers. If she is suffering from PND, she cannot pop along to baby groups to make some mum friends, she can’t simply try and get out more with baby for some fresh air. She can’t even post for support on the foremost anonymous parenting forum for support, without having to sift through all the bile about her first.

And before people start bleating that ‘she chose that life’ - no one chooses to struggle with motherhood. Some people find it a breeze. Some people find it very very hard. PND, and mental health in general, is no respecter of wealth or status

OverByYer · 20/10/2019 16:47

I do have sympathy with them on the one hand, but on the other the ‘ woe are we’ narrative is wearing thin.
They are apparently taking six weeks off for some much needed family time.
I think the do need to remember that they are enormously privileged and have riches that the rest of us can only dream about.
I think they need to stop feeling so sorry for themselves.
If they don’t like their life, the opt out. Drop the titles, stop taking money from the public purse and crack on.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 20/10/2019 16:53

I think if she stays off the AIBU threads she should be alright. And hasn't she just taken Archie to his first mother and baby group and really enjoyed it?

It's a mistake to believe they live either in isolation or under a microscope. They are quite capable of having a social life without the general public knowing their every move.

The issue is their relationship with the public. They still have a private life.

Rinoachicken · 20/10/2019 16:53

Many people are hugely wealthy and privileged. If they were struggling with their mental health would you tell them to just put up and shut up? To stop being pathetic, they have nothing to be depressed about?

And I thought we had been making progress with breaking down the stigma of mental health in this country.

Apparently you aren’t allowed to struggle if you are rich, and if you are struggling then you aren’t allowed to show it.

Blingandrings · 20/10/2019 16:59

About Harry looking burnt out.. I think he’s been looking miserable and exhausted for quite a while. Before he got engaged to Meghan he wasn’t doing a lot of public engagements. Those he was doing were limited to his personal interests and didn’t attract the same media frenzy. I think he’s had to adjust to a much more public role, trying to help his wife through the horror show that is her family and adjust to being a father. He just isn’t coping it would seem.

Blingandrings · 20/10/2019 17:00

@Rinoachicken
I don’t think it’s expected that you show it when the public are paying for you, no. It’s very tough, but them’s the rules.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/10/2019 17:06

Interesting piece here, in that it gives the actual number of days worked by the RF last year, rather than just the total of engagements: writeroyalty.com/royal-work-statistics-2018-annual-edition/

If this is anything like accurate, there seems no doubt they all have plenty of time for private lives away from the media

Dogdogcat · 20/10/2019 17:11

I am not a huge fan, but I do feel very badly for Meghan. When I was pregnant and for about a year after giving birth I was very sensitive and had some PNA. I have no idea if she has been affected by PND or PNA, but I could not imagine going through that while at the same time having every move I made being scrutinized by the press and untold numbers of random people on forums like this. I don't think it really matters what other RF members have suffered in the past, it was horrible then, it's horrible now.

Supersimkin2 · 20/10/2019 17:11

I'm all for them both taking time out. I reckoned when they got engaged Harry threatened to bolt if they didn't get their own way about the wedding. They want the cash without the duties, which is entirely understandable - every other rich person gets money through the door without having to do good works. They know a lot of rich people.

It's not what the Royal Family stands for - they are the last bastion of Stiff Upper Lip. I suspect Harry will threaten to leave until it stops working and the courtiers say There's the Door, which is what the palace did to the Duke of Windsor. Courtiers aren't nice people.

Horehound · 20/10/2019 17:11

Conversations evolve. Any long thread on here goes off at tangents

This isn't an evolved conversation or tangent. It's a witch-hunt

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 20/10/2019 17:15

This isn't an evolved conversation or tangent. It's a witch-hunt

Really? Have you missed the many supportive comments on this and other threads?

Horehound · 20/10/2019 17:16

They are always few and far between! And it's never ending.

Nearlyalmost50 · 20/10/2019 17:34

I think the idea of confessional interviews should have died a death with Diana's doe-eyed performance. They just shouldn't do them, full stop.

I agree that that is a life of living in a bubble, and not a pleasant one. I wouldn't like to be under that scrutiny after giving birth. They don't have to talk about it publicly though, it's a huge mistake to try to solicit sympathy.