To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

This is what the CEO of the charity had to say about the bananas.

“That really touched me — and I’m not even a royalist,” One25 CEO Anna Smith told reporters. “She had clearly listened and heard what we are all about — that we don’t judge, we simply offer the service and unconditional love. She totally got it.”

Very different to inappropriate, cringeworthy, patronising.

@morningcoffee22 So why is it ‘disgusting‘ and ‘repulsive’? (Not saying I’ve seen that on here, certainly on the Daily Mail)

Are you mixing me up with someone else? I haven’t used those words.

Anyway, surely everything that has been said by now is all there is to say. There have been so many threads about this subject it's downright boring.

Yet you're still here

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Clearly Harry's not to blame for them doing this, but knowing that they do it he'd have been wise to keep a lid on things instead of handing them such an obvious opportunity”

I think that’s what’s known as “victim blaming”. I’ve put victim in inverted commas because I know the false arse brigade will come piling in at the suggestion of Harry as victim.

I'll never understand the angst about the engagement dress, given that we didn't even pay for it!!!

What she's worn since her clothing allowance kicked in has been in a similar price bracket to the other royals.

So sick of this petulant, over indulged, privileged manchild! I am stunned by the sheer audacity of this hypocrite to reinvent himself as some moral apostle. He wasn’t a teenager when he wore a Nazi uniform, something so utterly rank and abhorrent, even without taking his background into consideration. His new-thinking-man-supporting-his-feminist-partner image also sits very much at odds with his still quite recent exploitative behaviour around women at parties that seem to emulate rap videos. It’s like someone fresh back from a week long stag do at Prague, barely having finished shoving money in strippers’ knickers trying to preach to the masses.

I don’t think anyone thinks the private jets were their finest hour to put it mildly. Any more than William making a speech (or preaching, if you like) about the environment when Kate was pregnant with their third child or flying to look at a melting glacier. Do you actually have anything that they’ve done that isn’t standard royal behaviour?

“ h his still quite recent exploitative behaviour around women at parties that seem to emulate rap videos”
This is new- or new to me! Tell me more?

I thought the speech was awful the way he turned it all on to himself, in front of those poor families with poorly children. Even if they were tears (which dried up remarkably quickly) it was self indulgence, no thought at all for those families. Just PR nothing more, like most of his speeches are.

I thought you'd say that, Bertrand, and if Harry had to spend his entire life in public instead of enjoying the privacy and privilege on demand which they all do I might even agree

But I'm not convinced that expecting rational behaviour for the entirety of a brief visit is really such a burden, or that once again drawing attention to himself earns a victim label if folk comment on it. For that matter, I'm not sure that painting themselves as victims would be a wise road for the RF to go down either

Don't be ridiculous about the Nazi fancy dress costume; Nazis have been parodied for years, SS officers included. Mel Brooks even wrote a musical with a chorus of Nazi officers strutting around doing 'Seig Heil'. It's called taking the piss, not that the wearer is a Nazi sympathiser. Julian Clary even dressed as one for a scene.

Other fancy dresses include Genghis Khan, the Ayatollah Khomeini (can't remember how to spell that), Saddam Hussain, Idi Amin, many others.

It was fancy dress only!

I think Harry is a decent chap who unfortunately cannot please everyone.

Regarding the Duchess's engagement dress (which I didn't like but that's just personal taste), I don't know what the fuss was about. We didn't pay for it and it was probably given to her by the designer and haute couture people. A lot of fuss about nothing - but we've all been here before. People just love to be outraged about nothing much and the media encourage that.

For that matter, I'm not sure that painting themselves as victims would be a wise road for the RF to go down either

I don’t disagree, but I didn’t notice much backlash when Kate started talking about how hard she found motherhood and how much she struggled.

“ But I'm not convinced that expecting rational behaviour for the entirety of a brief visit is really such a burden,”
No, I agree. But I don’t think he lost it for 10 seconds on purpose! I assume he was pissed off with himself adterwards

He wasn’t a teenager when he wore a Nazi uniform

He wasn't a teenager either when he called a fellow serviceman his "little P*ki friend" or referred to "ragheads", but it hasn't seemed to stop him delivering views on racism

And TBF his (apparently new) views are correct; it's just that, as with so much else, they jar pretty badly with his known history

Don't be ridiculous about the Nazi fancy dress costume

As much as I like Harry and Meghan, wearing a Nazi fancy dress costume is clearly in very bad taste.

I didn’t notice much backlash when Kate started talking about how hard she found motherhood and how much she struggled.

To be fair I do remember reading a lot of comments online at the time from angry parents saying how out of touch that comment was. And I am inclined to agree with them - of course anyone can find motherhood hard going, but there’s no doubt it’s a hell of a lot easier when you have a team of round the clock nannies, health professionals and unlimited funds.

Wierd how he doesn’t get hassle for the things he’s really done wrong- the casual posh boy racism, rhe blood sports, the animal cruelty. No- a 10 second loss of control in an emotionally charged atmosphere is disgusting. Doubly ironic at a time when we are supposed to be encouraging men to acknowledge their emotions....

Wierd how he doesn’t get hassle for the things he’s really done wrong

My feeling is that the press and public were remarkably kind to him (indulgent even) during the Nazi dress up years.

Then that all changed when he married the mixed race, American actress.

To be fair I do remember reading a lot of comments online at the time from angry parents saying how out of touch that comment was

I'm sure that's correct, but I don't remember 17 threads on here about it.

The public were very forgiving of Harry in the past although personally I couldn't fathom why anyone would think of dressing in a Natzi costume. I don't know if that's because they liked his laddish persona then.

Yes. Meghan can’t be held responsible for the aforementioned casual posh boy racism, or the treatment of his polo ponies, so they are all excusable.....