To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

So anyone who voices any feelings of unease. that's an equivalent to the crazies on the internet is it? We are all in the one basket?

@morningcoffee22 So why is it ‘disgusting‘ and ‘repulsive’? (Not saying I’ve seen that on here, certainly on the Daily Mail)

I think it’s just a normal reaction to someone who’s overcome by emotion, he’s making a speech and he’s got upset, he probably feels a bit silly and awkward given he’s being watched by however many people. But people are using it against him and that implies there is something sinister behind it when there clearly isn’t.

No. It’s perfectly fine (compulsory in my book) to express unease and more about they whole undemocratic, entitled, profligate, outdated shower. What’s not perfectly fine is to hold two of them to significantly higher standards for no discernible reason.

Where, for example, are the threads on here about W&K being attention seeking and “making a point” for arriving at that reception in a TucTuc? For “lecturing and preaching” about climate change while looking at a melting glacier they flew to see? For “making it all about her” when Kate said a few words of Urdu? Where is the criticism of W being disrespectful for his scruffy clothes?

I wonder how much of the stuff in the papers and on social media they actually read

A small point I know, and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Meghan insist at some event that she doesn't read the press or Twitter?

“ but didn't Meghan insist at some event that she doesn't read the press or Twitter?”
Yes- but mumsnetters all insist they don’t read the Daily Mail.....

I agree with you @AviationLifystyleOP. Becoming a parent is triggering for all sorts of reasons including the magnitude of what you lost with the loss of your own parent. I think they are a lovely family and are deserving of empathy, just as any other parent would be. And Archie is just adorable.

@Mauritius thank God. You've summed it up for me. Just massive disappointment that M has just turned out to be another person with not much of consequence to say except a lot of hot air. Someone who preaches 'do as I say and not as I do'. Someone who is a celebrity worshipper and an overpriced designer clothes wearer. Saying the internet is a Bad Thing , whilst using it to promote herself and her bland homilies on Instagram.
The awards just capped it for me. Lots of very sick children and their families, but Harry brought it all back to himself and his wife, who are extremely privileged people
The whole mental health thing whilst extremely laudable makes a mockery of us commoners though, who have to rely on the NHS for help when there is none. Yet we are being urged to 'seek help'. The only help there is costs a lot of money. They can afford it, most of us can't.

They may have their hearts in the right place and genuinely wish to do good, but it's such a disappointment.
The other Royals don't get criticised in the same way because they don't raise expectations beyond what they are able to deliver. It's very simple. They wear expensive clothes, take private jets , and live lives of luxury which we pay for. They don't appear to be hypocrites in the same way because they aren't behaving like they are superior. M and H are coming across as precious, out of touch and just annoying. To me, Meghan reeks of self regard. Perhaps I am massively misinterpreting it. She may be a very humble, genuine woman, but that's the impression she gives. It is NOTHING to do with race.

What did they actually say, in terms of marking themselves out as 'different'?

everyone I know said there was no denying he laughed and snorted.

To me it looked like he laughed out of embarrassment that he was breaking down/about to cry.

Didn't Meghan insist at some event that she doesn't read the press or Twitter?

If that’s the case then how are they even aware of all the negativity in the press/online? Do their staff have to brief them on what’s being said or something? I definitely wouldn’t like that job!

It is NOTHING to do with race.

I appreciate that you may not find this a particularly helpful comment, but human beings are not very good at understanding why we feel what we feel.

We're very good at post rationalising though.

No one can say with any certainty that race doesn't impact how they feel about MM.

Do their staff have to brief them on what’s being said or something?

Of course. That's what press secretaries are for.

Even if Meghan doesn't read the stuff herself, she can't be unaware of it.

They must downplay it enormously though I’d have thought - they won’t be reading out comments from the Daily Mail verbatim.

Personally if I was in Meghan and Harry’s position I simply wouldn’t want to know - ignorance is bliss and all that!

Meghan’s done good work for her charities.

Why are H&M taking the rap for mental health campaign ( which is actually OK insofar as it goes) when W&K were just as involved?

Why is that 10 seconds of WellChild visit getting all the attention, not the time they spent before the speeches talking to and listening to the kids and their parents?

What the fuck have you the idea that Meghan wasn’t going to wear expensive frocks?

The abuse started practically on the day the engagement was announced - did everyone have a crystal ball to show them how disappointed they’d be by her a year later?

Incidentally, one of the things that she was criticised for at the beginning was her talking about the empowerment of women and girls. For “pushing her agenda” and not taking a back seat. So what do you want her to do? Be an eyes down hands folded Kate type and be accused of not following through or speak out and be accused of pushing her own agenda and not being royal enough?

You'd think that if you were actually invested in H&M being 'different', then you'd get behind the things they've done that were different, rather than slate them incessantly.

I'm thinking of things like the bananas (quirky and outside the box for the royals) and not posing outside the Portland hours after giving birth (a feminist move in the right direction).

But no, what we got was moaning about being too American and bullshit about not 'following protocol'.

DeeCeeCherry is right.

No, that was a cringeworthy patronising stunt, much like Harry making it all about him at the wellchild event

Yet donations to the charity increased off the back of it.

So I doubt those who benefited from it give much of a fuck about whether you approve of the execution or not.

Bananas - cringeworthy and inappropriate

Not posing outside the Portland - great move, but don't announce you're not going to announce and then announce you're in labour when you've given birth. Then make a big thing of not letting the public know who the Godparents are. It's just attention seeking and precious.

Of course Meghan was expected to wear expensive dresses but not a dress on her engagement that would have been a large downpayment on a house.

Meghan has said that she doesn't read any of the press about her. I think however that clearly isn't true.

Mental health campaign - that's not just M and H obviously. I just find illustrative of how little they understand what it's like for people without their privileges.

As for everything meghan has said about women's empowerment, what has she actually done personally to empower women? Marrying a rich powerful man and clutching his hand at every engagement doesn't exactly illustrate her own empowerment. If she'd used her degree to work for international relations, maybe. Instead she became an actress and took part in adverts that were not in the least empowering.

The private jets thing has been done to death.

Anyway, surely everything that has been said by now is all there is to say. There have been so many threads about this subject it's downright boring.

I also bitterly resent complete strangers telling me of course I MUST be a racist.

“ I want to see them all be discreet with their immense privilege and if they want to raise awareness of anything then lead by example as well”
What- like Harry with the Invictus Games and Sentabale and Meghan with SmarrWorks, The Hudd Kitchen, One25..........

Why is that 10 seconds of WellChild visit getting all the attention, not the time they spent before the speeches talking to and listening to the kids and their parents?

Because sadly that's the way the blasted media operate; they'll always report an "angle" rather than what, to them, is just another snoozefest visit

Clearly Harry's not to blame for them doing this, but knowing that they do it he'd have been wise to keep a lid on things instead of handing them such an obvious opportunity