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UK Family detained in USA after accidentally driving in from Canada

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PrincessRaven · 16/10/2019 07:48

Two members of British family arrested after 'swerving to miss an animal and accidentally driving from Canada into America' had previously been denied entry to the US, border officials reveal.

The family said they blundered into Washington state while trying to avoid an animal in the road on the Canadian side and have since been 'treated like criminals' by their US jailers.

They say they have been subjected to filthy conditions in the Berks Detention Center in Leesport, Pennsylvania, since October 5.

The agency said that border agents tried returning the family to Canada, but Canada refused to have them back. After making two attempts to contact British consular officials, the border patrol said it turned the family over to U.S. immigration officials for removal proceedings.

It comes after footage emerged from Eileen's Instagram account appearing to show the couple travelling at speeds of up to 170kph (105mph) near the Canadian border.

Relatives back in Surrey say they are sick with worry and fear for Eileen in particular who is growing weak with hunger and stress.

Eileen is sharing a small room with her baby son, Grace and the twins and is too frightened to venture out other than to phone home and eat a meagre breakfast.

'At the moment Eileen is sleeping in a small room with Grace and the children.

'When I speak to her she sounds calm but I think that's an act to make sure the kids are ok.

'Inside she's absolutely terrified. She spends most of the time in the room with Tommy because she's scared to venture out.

They were staying in Vancouver and had gone into the surrounding countryside to go fishing.

'They were on their way back when Michael swerved to avoid a large animal, a moose I think, and ended up on a country road which led across the border.

'The first they actually knew they'd gone into the States was when they'd actually turned around and were heading back when they were surrounded by police vehicles.

David and Michael were taken to a detention centre in Washington while Eileen and Grace and the kids were put up in a budget hotel nearby.

'The immigration people stayed with them throughout, wouldn't let them make any calls and told them nothing about what was happening.

'They were there for two days before they were all reunited again at an airport near Seattle. For some reason they were flown to Chicago and then had a connecting flight to New York where they were driven to Pennsylvaniana.

It's all a bit odd, how do you accidentally drive over the border so far that the border force pick you up? (Never been to Vancouver)

Why wouldn't Canada let them back in?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/15/british-family-claim-us-officials-kidnapped-accidentally-straying

www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/15/eileen-connors-british-family-ice-vacation-detention/

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eBooksAreBooks · 16/10/2019 09:36

This is like the "I was just getting into my pyjamas, when I tripped and my penis ended up in a hoover pipe" stories isn't it?

BrassTactical · 16/10/2019 09:37

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CarolDanvers · 16/10/2019 09:38

This is total BS. I'm not going to link but have a look for other news stories on this family. They wanted in to the US and decided to just go for it. They sound very stupid and typical "rules don't apply to US!" Even reading between the lines of the supposed dreadful conditions they're being held in; would a three month old baby survive for three days without formula? Told to put a hat in her baby, where did the hat come from if everything was confiscated and they only have blankets to wrap their child in and what were they doing undertaking such an arduous journey with such small children anyway? Total fools and I bet they're an absolute nightmare to deal with at the detention centre. The biggest problem about this is that we have to have them back!

Juells · 16/10/2019 09:48

Years ago my mother spent a few weeks in the US with my sister, who was married and living there at the time. She was invited to stay with a (American-born) friend in Vermont, who insisted it would be perfectly safe to drive into Canada, and back home by the end of the day. Of course it wasn't, when they were coming back across the border the border guards questioned everyone in the car and my mother was like a rabbit in headlights. She'd foolishly left her passport with visa in NY, as she hadn't thought she'd be crossing any borders. It was very dodgy, and she was lucky she didn't end up stateless Grin

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Juells · 16/10/2019 09:51

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SoupDragon · 16/10/2019 09:51

Who takes a 3 month old on holiday FFS?

Lots of people Confused

WhenYouCantRunYouCrawl · 16/10/2019 09:54

This is apparently where they were:

27541 0 Ave
maps.app.goo.gl/hS5gCK5vasb4NfTT6

There's a big ditch on the border so if they had swerved off the road they would have damaged their car. Plus it's pretty obvious which is the Canada road and which is the US road. Their story is bollocks but I don't doubt that they are being kept in some pretty awful conditions. They better hope that their children don't get taken away and placed in foster care with no record as to where, which is what has happened to immigrants on the southern border.

loooosir · 16/10/2019 09:54

There is obviously more to this story.

I don't think the racism towards travellers on this thread is ok, though.

limpylegs · 16/10/2019 09:55

@IfIHadAPenny If the badger had of been any bigger you would have ended up in Dublin.

CarolDanvers · 16/10/2019 09:58

I don't think the racism towards travellers on this thread is ok, though

What racism? Seriously is it not ok to observe that they're travellers? I knew this would happen the moment it was mentioned and was the reason everyone previous to the person who finally said it were falling over themselves NOT to mention it Hmm

ChilliMayo · 16/10/2019 10:01

Although we do have VERY large badgers in Kent, a distinct subspecies of badger called malayan tapir. So your story is entirely plausible.
I was once en route to Asda and had to swerve to avoid one grazing the central reservation. I ended up at Waitrose and was £14.62 out of pocket.

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 16/10/2019 10:01

Agree that yes, you would take a 3 month old to the seaside or somewhere, a short hop on a plane or somewhere local but who , in their right mind, takes them on a 6hour plus plane journey? Also babies have reduced immunity before 3 months and you are putting the poor child at a huge risk.

Pinkkahori · 16/10/2019 10:02

juelles You surely realise that people with names from many, many cultures can be British.

loooosir · 16/10/2019 10:02

E.g. "Eileen Connors" (British family my arse) implying that because they have a 'foreign sounding name' that they're not really British. Try that with a stereotypical 'black' name, does it sound ok?

Replace the work 'travelers' in people's posts, with 'black' and see if it still sounds ok. (it doesn't)

Racism.

BrassTactical · 16/10/2019 10:04

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CarolDanvers · 16/10/2019 10:05

Agree Brass.

loooosir · 16/10/2019 10:05

We should be able to make statements of fact without being called racist. absolutely. But that's not what the posters stated. Implying that behaviour is typical of an ethnic group, or suggesting an ethnic group isn't really British, is racist.

Kolo · 16/10/2019 10:08

"Swerved to miss an animal! Is that the best they could come up with? No wonder they got caught. Stupid arses."

Not just any animal. A moose, of course!

loooosir · 16/10/2019 10:08

Racisim: the belief that people's qualities are influenced by their race and that the members of other races are not as good as the members of your own, or the resulting unfair treatment of members of other races. (Cambridge dictionary)

I think this post: "Will get flamed for this but with that name and those clothes they are obviously “travelers” who think that the rules don’t apply to them." meets that definition. Posters who have commented on them being travellers haven't done so as a simple observation. They have done so because they think that makes them superior. That is racism.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/10/2019 10:10

They must think we were born yesterday

Yup Wink

MockersthefeMANist · 16/10/2019 10:11

The Swedish Driving Test requires you to demonstrate that you can avoid a (simulated) moose in the road.

CarolDanvers · 16/10/2019 10:12

Posters who have commented on them being travellers haven't done so as a simple observation. They have done so because they think that makes them superior. That is racism.

I don't agree at all with this. They seem to be travellers and as such many travellers generally do not agree with borders and believe in total freedom of movement for themselves. It's a sticky area I grant you and easily could tip into racism, but shrieking racism at the first mention of them being travellers and telling people they are doing it because they feel superior just feels like censorship by shaming to me.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/10/2019 10:13

we do have VERY large badgers in Kent ... I was once en route to Asda and had to swerve to avoid one grazing the central reservation. I ended up at Waitrose and was £14.62 out of pocket

Brilliant Grin Grin

SerendipityJane · 16/10/2019 10:14

Maybe they should claim diplomatic immunity ?