Kids of famous people saying they are famous in their own right!

[Belledan1]

It really drives me mad. You are obviously mainly famous or successful because of connections. I know some are them are talented but surely connections of parents help. David Hasslehoff's daughter has said it. Kelly Osborne, Lilly Allen and loads more.

I was thinking though of Lisa Presley the other day and wondering what she ever could have done to not be 'tainted' with her father's spectacular and enduring success?

Couldn't she have done almost anything else? Most normal people are restricted by things like needing to earn a living, going to a low achieving school, not being able to afford to do unpaid internships, not having contacts, having to work your way through uni, fear of debt, etc. Well-off people have more opportunities partly because they have a financial safety net. Most famous people are well-ff, so what's to stop their children pursuing an ambition to be a doctor, lawyer, marine biologist, engineer, business owner, etc? They might be in the papers every so often, but I think people would lose interest in their non-celebrity lives eventually. I guess many do, but it's weird that there are so many wealthy kids who aren't taking advantage of their freedom to go in any direction they want, and instead just decide to be a model because that's what their mum does.

Is it picking on children day?
Rafe Spall.
Benedict Cumberbatch
Alexander Skarsgard
Angelina Jolie
Carrie Fisher
There are loads of famous (in their own right) children of famous couples. Some use it, some don't.

Stella had Kate and Naomi walking in her graduate show at St Martins whilst her dad penned a song specially for it. Not many students can do that.

Macca sent Stella and Mary to the local comp where they had the crap beaten out of them.

Macca's grandkids all go to Hogwarts.

I've never heard of Alfie Allen

I also tutted a lot at whichever Jenner was being fêted as being self-made'...yeah right

@seasidequayside

You do have a valid point, and I do agree in many ways. But I think many people who come from a very famous family, do actually WANT to do the same. It's in their blood.

Unfortunately, some of them do not have the talent. They may be OK, but don't have the same talent. My mother could put Mary Berry and Prue Leith to shame with her amazing, brilliant baking. I can just about rustle up some chocolate covered rice-krispy cakes. (And my 3 y.o. niece does them better!)

I cannot bake to save my life. Doesn't follow that if one person in the family is talented in any particular field, that everyone who is closely related to them (sibling, offspring, niece, nephew, cousin, grandchild,) is going to be talented too.

But some of them are of course, as I mentioned in my post above (at 14.37.)

Carrie Fisher is a good example. She was a very good actress, and a star in her own right. Ditto Liza Minelli (daughter of Judy Garland.)

There are plenty of people who are famous via their famous family, who are very talented, and very good, and deserve their fame. But there are also plenty of who have little, or no talent, but still seem to be all over TV, in magazines, in newspapers, all over the internet and social media, and generally in everyone's face, trying to convince us how talented they all are.

Brooklyn Beckham is a good example too, of someone who has very famous parents, but fuck-all to offer by way of talent. Not his fault obviously. He probably feels he HAS to try and create a talent or persona as he is the child of David and Victoria, but the poor lad has no talent.

As seasidequayside said, some of them really should try their hand at something else other than 'fame' when they clearly don't have the talent their famous and successful family members have. It's understandable that they want a slice of it too, but you do have to have some talent to make it, and stay successful.

There are all types really, but some children do learn a lot about their art from their parents; Mozart's father was famous in his day.

Cindy Crawford or Johnny Depp’s fat faced daughters can get in without anyone raising an issue.

I kind of disagree about Lily Rose Depp. In my opinion, she's the absolute image of her mother Vanessa when she was younger, minus the gap in her teeth, and Vanessa was a model in her own right, so I don't think it's unreasonable that Lily could have been one too. Obviously her parents being who they are did get her there, but I genuinely think she could have been a model regardless.

Other celeb offspring not so much though. Bella Hadid having all that surgery to become a model pisses me off. Surely anyone can do that, there's nothing unique about it?

Agelikewine Brooklyn’s photos were crap, but equally, he can’t just go work in Greggs

He doesn't need to work though does he? He can go and do whatever he wants - study, find what he's interested in, travel etc etc?.

Brooklyn is the child of David and Victoria, but the poor lad has no talent.

.....takes after his mum?

As an aside, have you seen how gorgeous Patsy Palmers kids are?

Muhammad Ali’s daughter (Laila) was a boxer and by some stats more successful than her dad. She also sensibly retired earlier than he did.

There are some things that I know even without all the money and connections I could never be able to do (because I am tone deaf, uncoordinated and have a shit back).

Yanbu but there are a few who can say that - I'm thinking of Charlie Sheen, Michael Douglas, Carrie Fisher, Jennifer Aniston amongst others.

I think Brooklyn Beckam and the daughter of Noel Gallagher(don’t know her name) are good examples. Both very average looking.. You wouldn’t give them a second glance yet they both worked as models!
What’s a joke😊
There are countless other examples.

In the case if BB his mother had no talent either]

I guess it depends. If you are good at something and make your living from it, eg Chris Eubanks son is a professional boxer, then that's different from your famous parents opening doors for you

Even athletes are mostly only where they are because of their parents.

They wouldn't have access to the coaches, managers, academies, etc. if their parent wasn't already famous in the sport. And they likely wouldn't have the time and money to train every day from a young age either.

I don’t know - I don’t think any amount of coaching and all the money on the world would make me a great singer or gymnast!

I don’t know - I don’t think any amount of coaching and all the money on the world would make me a great singer or gymnast!

Right, but I'm not saying having a famous parent guarantees that you will become famous. Just that there are many people who are pretty good boxers/singers/footballers/gymnasts but who do not become famous because they can't train with the top coaches at the top academies, with all the time and money in the world to train daily from a young age and all the contacts in the world to get into the business when they're older.

A lot of supermodels are 'weird looking' as opposed to 'beautiful' - and I think both Anais Gallagher and Lily Rose Depp fit into that category perfectly.

Lottie Moss on the other hand is just beautiful. No one should be surprised that she became a model.

If they didn't have the connections they had none of them might have made it (or even been interested in trying) but they equally look exactly like many of the women who become supermodels who are just scouted and then make it big in their own right. These three just happened to be easier to find.

YANBU. No one would look twice at "photographer" Brooklyn Beckham otherwise

I suppose many, many teenagers think it would be great to be famous or be a model, movie star, singer or similar. For most of us that's just a ridiculous fantasy and we quickly grow up and do something else that, if we're lucky, will turn out to be far more enjoyable/satisfying/interesting than being famous would have been. Maybe some celeb offspring sometimes don't get past that 'ridiculous fantasy' stage because they CAN become famous, so they end up never knowing what an interesting life they could have had if they'd found out where their real talents and interests lay.

I saw an interview with the Duke of Westminster's daughter a while ago. She is mega-wealthy & presumably could have spent her life modelling, going to parties, etc, but she did a sociology degree because it interested her, and then set up a prison reform charity and funds various projects with her own money. She is so well-informed and passionate about what she does and about improving the lives of offenders and lowering reoffending rates. I wonder if Georgia Jagger, Brooklyn Beckham, have that level of satisfaction in what they do, and whether they've spent any time finding out about the world outside of their own social circles and exploring what they could do with their lives.

Who are Lily Allen's parents?

Especially true when you look at the likes of Willow Smith. She's what 15?

Well, yes, they are born in a certain circle , that helps. But it goes both ways doesn't it, they have spent their childhood being "that" child, reading stories about their parents in the paper and so on. They stick to a world they know, chose a path more or less within that world.

Can you imagine what it's like to feel like you are always in the shadow of one - or both - of your parents? Many famous people marry other famous people (it works or not) but it's such a strange world, outsiders don't comprehend it.

So they are working to be famous in their own right. Stella had connections, but she still pushed through. Athletes have parents who know what commitment and hard work means, it's still open to everybody else.

Sophie Dahl - Don't think she has talent in whatever she's tried her hand at.