To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)

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As in people in places such as Richmond, Kingston (insisting they live in Surrey) or places such as Bromley (insisting they are in Kent).

These places may used to have in a different county but have been part of greater London and a London Borough since 1965.

Is is snobbery? They usually drone only about postal towns which also no longer exist.

If we're going by TfL boundaries, then perhaps someone should advise Reading that they're going to be in London soon as the Elizabeth Line, aka Crossrail, will be run by TfL.

It annoys me! I feel it shouldn't be that hard to know where you live.
And people who say they live in Middlesex get my goat- it doesn't exist anymore.

I don't think it's anything to do with snobbery. I'm in Sutton and say I'm in London as it's in the London Borough of London, we pay London council tax and vote for the Mayor of London. The phone numbers are London, it's on the travelcard etc.
The only thing that isn't London is the 19th century postal address.

To the majority of the U.K. population who don’t live or work in the South-East of England, London begins and ends at the M25, irrespective of postcodes, local government boundaries or town names.

Londoners don’t understand how old theeor obsessywoth postcode snobbery looks to the rest of the country.

Guildford is in Surrey, that’s defo not London

I live in the old county of Middlesex, but now it’s a London borough. We don’t have a London postcode, so having lived in central and north London I’d feel a bit ridiculous saying I live in London now.
Also as one of the place you mention - Kingston is in Surrey, so what’s wrong with someone saying that?

You can't win if you live in Bromley. If you say it's in Greater London (it is), some halfwit will say it's in Kent. And vice versa.

Glad I now live in indisputable Kent proper. It was such a tiresome conversation.

I live in Bromley and my address is Bromley, KENT. And my postcode isn’t a London based postcode, it’s BR. If you’ve got a problem, take it up with the post office.

When I lived in Twickenham, that was Middlesex as far as I was concerned. Richmond is Surrey, not London.

I grew up in East London. If you have an E postcode you are in London. IG, RM, CM postcodes are Essex. I don't care if you have a London dialling code or red buses .

If you can vote for the mayor of london you are in greater london. Whatever your postcode / phone number / address / access to the tube / feeling. Actual London london. Well that is a whole other argument

Epsom & Ewell have been mentioned a few times. They are kind of the border as I see it with Ewell in the Oyster zone and Epsom just outside. Also (as far as I remember) Ewell have London phone numbers and Epsom are 01372 numbers.
I'd say if you get a vote for the London Assembly you are in London, if not you aren't.

If you can vote for the mayor of London you are in greater London
That should be the ultimate rule. I'm now decided.

You can't go by Oyster system. Bloody Chafford Hundred (that's the train station for lakeside shopping in ESSEX) is on the oyster system, as in Purfleet, also undisputedly Essex. Possibly others too.

@NetballHoop Interestingly epsom and ewell were supposed to be part of the new London borough structure but opposition from local MPs meant this didn't happen! (And until pretty recent history (1999) the Met policed Epsom not Surrey Police)

Does it matter?really?

My answer changes depending on who's asking. I can't win! I say Surrey mostly as I used to live closer to London & have an SE postcode so it feels more Surrey now than London, but I am right at the edge. A few roads away and the buses are no longer London buses. It's crazy how stressful this is!

If you have an E postcode you are in London. IG, RM, CM postcodes are Essex. I don't care if you have a London dialling code or red buses

Yay someone who agrees with me. I grew up in Barking which has an IG postcode. It's as near to London (East Ham) as you can get without actually being London.
And Upminster certainly isn't London

Postcodes and addresses are beyond confusing anyway. The area I live in spans two boroughs (confusing), and property prices soar between a single road thanks to the postcode demarcation.

Oh i agree totally.
The postcode i have now is for the city in the next county

I grew up in one of these London borders areas. We were in a London borough but had a Kent address and an 0181 (as was) phone number. We were in tfl zone 5/6 and well within the m25. 🤷‍♀️

OP, I'm really surprised the Met Police policed Epsom and Ewell.

I was born and raised in 'Middlesex' and as a kid had no reason to think otherwise as that's not only what my parents taught me but what also appeared (at the time) on all sorts of local paperwork .... letters from school, invoices from local trades, signs etc. We had an Uxbridge postcode and were technically in the LB of Ealing but 'proper' London was a long way down the Central Line! I don't think it was ever a snobby thing, just what rolled off the tongue most easily.

As an adult though I describe myself as a Londoner. Most non-Londoners have never heard of the particular area I grew up in. Or, at a push, 'near-ish Wembley or Heathrow'.

I live in Kingston. We have 020 phone numbers, TfL, vote for the Mayor, and have THREE sodding Prets within five minutes walk of each other. It's London.

@JoJoSM2

All you need to know about the met policing area history!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_District

But yes until 1999, Epsom and Ewell, Elmbridge, Spe;thorne and Reigate areas of Surrey were all policed the Met.

The issue is the postal address- so you have the London borough of Bexley but the postal address is Bexleyheath, Kent

So many people saying this on the first page alone and all wrong. No counties are part of any address and haven't been for at least 30 years.