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To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)

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Rosehip10 · 06/10/2019 18:36

As in people in places such as Richmond, Kingston (insisting they live in Surrey) or places such as Bromley (insisting they are in Kent).

These places may used to have in a different county but have been part of greater London and a London Borough since 1965.

Is is snobbery? They usually drone only about postal towns which also no longer exist.

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DappledThings · 15/10/2019 19:30

If I’m going there I don’t need to write

No, but someone might do! Presumably all businesses receive post of some kind.

woodhill · 18/10/2019 09:37

BBC asks for your county on their website as well as postcode

DappledThings · 18/10/2019 12:45

BBC asks for your county on their website as well as postcode

Then you can add them to the long list of companies who should know better

BlackberryNettles · 19/10/2019 17:45

Tbh almost everything I've every signed up for that requires an address asks for your City, County, AND postcode

DappledThings · 20/10/2019 00:54

Tbh almost everything I've every signed up for that requires an address asks for your City, County, AND postcode

I know. It it really is embarrassing how out of date the majority if companies are.

JustLooking2019 · 20/10/2019 11:26

I don’t know why it annoys the OP so much if people edit what they say depending on who their talking to?

I live in the borough of Richmond.
If I’m talking to someone outside of London I tell them I live on the outskirts of London.
If I’m talking to someone within London, I don't say London because if I do I get told “that’s not London!” (It bloody is!)
I might tell them the town I’m from but they’ll likely not have heard of it but I don’t tend to say Richmond either because the town of Richmond is actually about 5 miles away and I wouldn’t consider myself to live in “Richmond”. I usually just say I live near a local landmark but that confuses things too as said landmark is in Surrey (actual Surrey) but is only 2 miles from me (which was in Middlesex)

Out of interest, what do other Londoners put as their county in those asterisked drop down boxes online? I hardly ever see Greater London so always use Middlesex

woodhill · 20/10/2019 15:45

Exactly put Middlesex, you don't use your borough e.g. Harrow, Hillingdon, spelthorne ect

tulipsandcognac · 11/03/2020 17:54

It’s a private school actually

InfiniteCurve · 11/03/2020 20:27

Kent is merely a borough that belongs to the city of London

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CouldBeOuting · 11/03/2020 20:57

I say I live in SE London / North Kent. I live in a London Borough but my postal address quite definitely says Kent.

BadgersPaws2 · 11/03/2020 21:09

" I live in a London Borough but my postal address quite definitely says Kent."

No it doesn't. Go to the address below and enter your postcode, the address it comes back with won't mention Kent.
www.royalmail.com/business/find-a-postcode

Oblomov20 · 11/03/2020 21:11

I don't know what your problem is OP.
What difference does it make?

I live in Surrey.

Plus the point about Kingston is unfair. We all laugh about it not being in Surrey anymore, but it used to be, and the county council headquarters are still there!!

Standandwait · 11/03/2020 22:22

I don't quite understand what's wrong with you all. Haven't you ever heard the word "suburbs"? Kingston, Richmond, Twickenham, etc are SUBURBS. Of London.

More important, why don't we have an icon of a gavel hitting its cup?

ArthurDentsSpaceTowel · 11/03/2020 22:43

Anyone with a London telephone number is London anything starting 01 isn't

I'm old enough to remember when every phone number starting 01 was a London number.

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ArthurDentsSpaceTowel · 11/03/2020 22:53

Oh no not another zombie thread.

CouldBeOuting · 12/03/2020 13:57

No it doesn't. Go to the address below and enter your postcode, the address it comes back with won't mention Kent.

Going by that, my friend who lives in Rochester (ME postcode) doesn’t live in Kent and my daughter with DE postcode doesn’t live in Derbyshire!

All my mail says Kent on it, including post from HMRC, utilities, council. My driving licence says Kent.

TheoneandObi · 12/03/2020 13:59

Ha! At certainuniveraities it's common for students to swagger 'yeah yeah I come from London' when in fact they live in Esher or Cobham!

BadgersPaws2 · 12/03/2020 14:40

"Going by that, my friend who lives in Rochester (ME postcode) doesn’t live in Kent and my daughter with DE postcode doesn’t live in Derbyshire! "

Your postal address makes no statement about which county you live in, the Post Office stopped doing that a while ago. So the postal address doesn't say that someone does live in, for example, Kent and equally doesn't say that they don't live in Kent either. It's not connected.

The key point is that your official postal address does not make any mention of a County.

Many address systems are out of date and do contain a county name, that too implies nothing. The Post Office will just ignore it, it doesn't mean anything. You could easily address a letter to someone in Greenwich with "The Kingdom of Wessex", "The Roman Province of Britannia" or "Kent". It'll still get through.

One day it'll seem as absurd to suggest that any of the places in a London Borough are actually in Kent as it would be to say that Southwark is.

BadgersPaws2 · 12/03/2020 14:53

"At certainuniveraities it's common for students to swagger 'yeah yeah I come from London' when in fact they live in Esher or Cobham!"

It is really weird. At some level they do genuinely know that they don't come from London. They know which local authority they need to pay Council Tax to, which police service covers them and that they don't vote for the Mayor of London. But then there's some double think that goes on that lets them ignore all of those things and pretend that they live in London.

And the same applies for those who do live in London and yet claim that they don't. They know they vote for the Mayor, they know the London Met Police cover them and they know that they pay Council Tax to a London Borough. For all of those things they know that they're in London. Yet somehow the do a mental hop when talking about where they come from and use a map that was redrawn nearly 60 years ago.

It's really odd. I grew up one of those border places and find that double think really quite curious.

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