To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)

[Rosehip10]

As in people in places such as Richmond, Kingston (insisting they live in Surrey) or places such as Bromley (insisting they are in Kent).

These places may used to have in a different county but have been part of greater London and a London Borough since 1965.

Is is snobbery? They usually drone only about postal towns which also no longer exist.

@Mendeleev Kingston uni website is wrong, offical address for there as defined by the Royal Mail is:

Kingston University
River House
53-57 High Street
KINGSTON UPON THAMES
KT1 1LQ

Well, the address police better write to them and let them know. Along with many other schools, businesses and offices!

I wonder why they all have it so wrong?!

This issue isn't just applicable to London. My home city is Bristol. Over the centuries Bristol has been a county in its own right, then from 1974 -96 was part of Avon (which also encompassed Bath and Weston super mare). After Avon was disbanded Bristol went back to being a county in its own right.
Despite all these changes some satellite towns still have Bristol as the postal town, BS postcodes and 0117 dialling codes although they have reverted back to their former counties and are 20 miles away.

Loads of people and agencies still haven't cottoned onto the fact that counties do not form part of addresses.

It is not the case that addresses "do not include the County", but that Counties are not required as part of postal addresses only if the town and postcode have been included. Even by post it is not illegal nor even incorrect to include them, it is only that it is not strictly necessary. You can grumble all you like about people including an out of date county, but you've got to drop this silly fixation on postal addresses because you are in fact wrong.

It is not the case that addresses "do not include the County
Yes it is. Of course if you don't know the correct address you can guess at it and include the county in the vague hope it might help it arrive. Doesn't change that the county is not part of the correct address.

Of course it's not illegal to use he county. But it is incorrect.

I wonder why they all have it so wrong?!

Laziness and habit.

I have enjoyed having a fellow "counties are not in addresses" semi-obsessive Rosehip10!

Haha! Laziness? It takes more effort to write Surrey in the address!

The postal service is not the only user of an address. A County is still a valid characteristic. It is not "incorrect" to include it even where it's unnecessary.

Laziness? It takes more effort to write Surrey in the address!

But it takes more effort to check you have the correct format for an address and remember to use that correct format.

The postal service is not the only user of an address. A County is still a valid characteristic. It is not "incorrect" to include it even where it's unnecessary.

Royal Mail are the arbiters of addresses and own them. There's nothing stopping anyone using a county in an address but it's still wrong. I could include all kinds of extraneous stuff in my address if I wanted to. It would still get to me but would still be wrong.

Please check a dictionary definition of the word "wrong", it is not "wrong", it is simply not necessary in certain situations.

Good one!

Royal Mail define addresses. They do not include counties in the official address. Including it is wrong. It's an error with no consequence (other than causing me mild irritation) but an error nonetheless.

Okay ‘semi obsessive’ Dappled, you’d better get writing to all those places with the wrong address listed on their websites! That’ll keep you busy..

Okay ‘semi obsessive’ Dappled, you’d better get writing to all those places with the wrong address listed on their websites! That’ll keep you busy..

Well that would clearly tip me over the edge from semi to totally 😀

Haha!

Middlesex hasn't existed for 54 years. It's dead.

What? I live in Teddington, Middlesex. It’s not dead!

You don't, and yes it is. Dead, extinct, no longer in existence, an ex county. Dead for 54 years, not even recently deceased. If you don't believe me, get on the phone to Middlesex County Council and ask them!!! If you can reach them, you win.

Haha! Laziness? It takes more effort to write Surrey in the address!

Laziness in so much as people can't be bothered to make the effort to change to get it right.

If you live in a London borough, you are not in Surrey, Kent, Essex, Middx etc. etc. You just aren't. I don't give a toss what the local uni says, or your deeds, or anything else. They're just plain wrong.

No you don't - you live in Teddington which is part of the London Borough of Richmond-upon-Thames. Teddington was part of Middlesex but this changed in 1965.

The postal address is Middlesex.

The London Borough of Richmond upon Thames includes postal addresses that are in London, Middlesex and Surrey.

Richmond Council lists its address as

Civic Centre
44 York Street
Twickenham
Middlesex
TW1 3BZ

The media also believe in the existence of middlesex if recent reports are to be believed.

Royal Mail define addresses.

The problem is that post codes don't really tell you where somebody lives.

Middlesex tells me where Twickenham is. (Outskirts of West London, North of the River).

On the other hand the 'TW' post code covers places that aren't in Twickenham.

There isn't really a right or wrong. Kingston is in Surrey (Outskirts of London, South of the river) and in Greater London, why is that a problem?

I don't understand
PS I'm in Stanmore, Middlesex.

The problem is that post codes don't really tell you where somebody lives.

This was covered upthread. If you are posting something to someone surely you either know them in which case you already know where they live. Or it's someone random you've sold something to on ebay or such like.

The postal address is Middlesex.

No it isn't.

Richmond Council lists its address as
Civic Centre
44 York Street
Twickenham
Middlesex
TW1 3BZ

Then they are wrong and should know better.

Rufflecrow
I still believe in Middlesex.