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To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)

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Rosehip10 · 06/10/2019 18:36

As in people in places such as Richmond, Kingston (insisting they live in Surrey) or places such as Bromley (insisting they are in Kent).

These places may used to have in a different county but have been part of greater London and a London Borough since 1965.

Is is snobbery? They usually drone only about postal towns which also no longer exist.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 12:14

My surrey flat that’s in a London’s Borough was built in 1969

Deeds have it down as surrey

Extending the lease on property it’s down as surrey not London

I’ve also lived in London postcode area and been under Bromley Borough

London address would push the price up so not sure why estate agents haven’t worked this out

DappledThings · 12/10/2019 12:35

I never write down London Borough of blah blah I’ve never seen it written like that unless it’s to the council

You don’t need to write down London either for he post office as it is directed by the post code

No you don't write London Borough of but you don't write Surrey either. The royal mail database clearly shows each address with the postal town, in capitals and a postcode. There may also be a smaller district like a village. Including Surrey is just wrong.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 12:41

But they are in the deeds of the property - I would consider that the correct address

London isn’t mentioned

And just renewed lease that is surrey too

I would prefer flat to me markted as London as I would get a better price

My old flat in London SE postcode under Bromley Borough would certainly been lower in price if of a similar area that had a BR post code

ethelfleda · 12/10/2019 12:43

Everywhere south of Coventry is London to me!

DappledThings · 12/10/2019 12:49

But they are in the deeds of the property - I would consider that the correct address

The deeds probably pre-date the changes to postal addresses. The correct address is what royal mail say. It almost certainly isn't London either. If you are in Kingston it will be something like:
Flat X
Building Name
Road Name
KINGSTON-UPON-THAMES
KTXX XXX

Rosehip10 · 12/10/2019 12:54

People who say "well I live in Surrey/Essex/Middlesex as it used to be that" is as ridiculous as someone saying "I live in the Gold Coast" (rather than Ghana as it was part of British empire until 1957) or even saying, I live in Britain when they live in Aquitaine (i.e France) as it was part of England until 1453.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 13:00

Flat was built in 1969

DappledThings · 12/10/2019 13:11

Flat was built in 1969

Wrong from the start then! Regardless, you address does not contain Surrey. Nobody has an address which contains Surrey, Kent, Lanarkshire, Tyrone or any county!

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 13:19

Then surely land registry wouldn’t have it listed as surrey

Rosehip10 · 12/10/2019 13:21

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed
If your flat was built in 1969 then it most likely wouldn't have been Surrey County Council who gave planning permission etc for the development it would have been London Borough of Kingston-Upon-Thames (officials based at Kingston guild hall)

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 13:25

It’s not Kingston

DappledThings · 12/10/2019 13:26

Then surely land registry wouldn’t have it listed as surrey

But it may well have been/be in Surrey. Doesn't mean Surrey forms part of the address

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 13:27

Have no idea who gave permission

I know when it was built and what the address is on the deeds and just renewing the lease - have written/typed the address numerous times over the last few weeks as you do in these circumstances

London Borough isn’t mentioned

Surrey is in the address

pamplemoussed · 12/10/2019 13:29

Middlesex hasn't existed for 54 years. It's dead.

What? I live in Teddington, Middlesex. It’s not dead!

Rosehip10 · 12/10/2019 13:31

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed Regardless of what part of Surrey it was until 1965 the point applies. Your deeds were written wrongly at the time.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 13:34

And the land registry haven’t picked up on that and numerous solicitors as had been sold I think this will be the fifth time

Odd

Rosehip10 · 12/10/2019 13:34

@pamplemoussed
No you don't - you live in Teddington which is part of the London Borough of Richmond-upon-Thames. Teddington was part of Middlesex but this changed in 1965.

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DappledThings · 12/10/2019 13:46

And the land registry haven’t picked up on that and numerous solicitors as had been sold

Doesn't surprise me. Loads of people and agencies still haven't cottoned onto the fact that counties do not form part of addresses. Doesn't mean you have to pander to their ignorance.

YogaDrone · 12/10/2019 13:49

I grew up in Harrow, it's in a London Borough and a quick tube journey to "town" (as we suburb types used to call it).

My mother and the rest of the older generation refer to it as Harrow, Middlesex despite the fact that Middlesex only exists as a county cricket team these days. If someone asks me where I come from I say Harrow, north west London, quite near Wembley Grin. Actual Londoner's probably don't think of Harrow as London though.

Mendeleev · 12/10/2019 13:54

My address says Kingston, Surrey, postcode. I normally say S.W. London/Surrey borders.
Seriously though...I think there are more important things to be annoyed about!

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 13:55

Not pandering to their ignorance

I have been handed legal documents that have been handed to solicitors that shall be handed to another set of solicitors and so on

And in the meantime i do a bit of paperwork that I write down the address that is written on the deeds - the address in full is asked for that address comes from the deeds (as that address will be what the land registry have)

DappledThings · 12/10/2019 14:05

My address says Kingston, Surrey, postcode

No it doesn't

DappledThings · 12/10/2019 14:11

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed I bought a house in Kent last year. I assume the deeds include Kent, I have no idea. I didn't put Kent on any official documents because it is no longer the address.

Mendeleev · 12/10/2019 14:18

Address on Kingston university website...

To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)
EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/10/2019 14:28

Maybe surrey isn’t on the deeds of your property is on my flat and the lease renewal so sticking with that as that’s the address on legal papers