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AIBU Disagreement on wedding seating

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RoyalnGeneral · 03/10/2019 08:52

Wedding one. Some details changed but I am not any of the four people involved.

I have a friend, Alice who suffers from anxiety (relevant). Alice got married to Ben about 18 months ago. Ben is a laid back ‘try to keep everyone happy’ type of guy. Alice and Ben are friends with another couple, Carl and Donna. Ben and Carl have been best friends for over 20 yrs. Alice and Donna worked together for several years but now work at different organisations.

Carl and Donna have announced they will be getting married next spring and Carl asked Ben to be his best man. Planning was going well until seating arrangements were discussed when it turned out Ben would be sitting at the top table while Alice would be at a guest table. Alice was upset and said she didn’t know anyone at the wedding and didn’t want to sit with strangers. She wanted to sit next to Ben at the top table.

Ben spoke to C&D and asked if Alice could sit with him. Carl and Donna said no, they understood it wasn’t ideal but that A&B would only be separated for a few hours. Alice said if she couldn't sit at the top table then she wanted Ben to sit at her guest table and do his speech from there. C&D refused again as they wanted Ben at the top table with Carl, so he could do the toasts/ read the messages/ keep people on time.

Things went back and forth without resolution, then last weekend Carl phoned Ben and uninvited him from being best man. A&B are still invited to the wedding and can now sit together at the guest table. The new best man will sit at the top table. The best man’s wife will be sitting with friends at another guest table.

Alice told me about this last night. She was taken aback that Ben had been uninvited. She said that at her wedding she hadn’t cared about wedding party only at the top table. What was important to her was that her guests felt comfortable and she didn’t think it was fair she had been expected to sit by herself with people she didn’t know.

I said that while Alice hadn't minded who sat at the top table at her wedding, Carl and Donna seem to want a more traditional approach. Also, C&D have accommodated Alice’s request to sit with Ben, although not in the way Alice expected. Carl will now have his best man with him at the top table, as he wants, and the best man’s wife will be sitting with people she knows, so perhaps it is the best compromise C&D can come up with, given the circumstances.

Alice disagreed. She said C&D are overreacting and she doesn’t see why she couldn’t been seated with Ben in the first place. She isn't sure she wants to go to the wedding now as she thinks it will be awkward.

AIBU to think Alice should have accepted C&D’s initial refusal and not continued to insist on sitting with Ben?

I know Alice’s anxiety means she finds these situations stressful so perhaps C&D could have been more sympathetic. But it’s C&D’s wedding day which I tend to think puts the onus on A&B to try to accomodate their friends' wishes.

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billy1966 · 03/10/2019 14:02

Alice has been unreasonable. Also she's been very rude not to accept their original No.

I think Ben's call was the right one.

billy1966 · 03/10/2019 14:03

Groom's call was the right one.

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RasberryRoyale · 03/10/2019 14:14

I have anxiety and other mental health issues- if I was Alice I wouldn’t attend during the day. I would never ask or expect to sit on the top table.

That being said, at my wedding my bridesmaid’s DP did sit on the top table. My bridesmaid never asked, we offered. It was a small wedding, he didn’t know anyone and I didn’t want to make him uncomfortable. He’s a really nice guy so it wasn’t a problem.
Had my friend asked I probably would have said yes too. I can understand why the bride and groom said no though.

Jessbow · 03/10/2019 14:16

Well Done Alice, you got what you wanted- you get to sit with Ben.

The damage you have done to Ben & Carls friendship probably wont bother you, but hey.

Never Mind Carl doesnt get what he wanted ( Ben as his best man) , as long as you are getting what you want......

Now you have got it, do dont think you want it! Fabulous!!!!

Wheelson · 03/10/2019 14:19

Surely Alice would know someone at the wedding besides Ben that they could sit her with? If I was Ben I'd be pretty pissed off with her.

Fantie · 03/10/2019 14:22

Alice is being dramatic and is bu.

Just sit at the table and eat your food for god sake. Can people really not survive sitting on a table for a couple of hours without there partner.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 14:26

Surely Alice would know someone at the wedding besides Ben that they could sit her with? If I was Ben I'd be pretty pissed off with her.

You I mean I honestly think it's virtually impossible for her not to know anyone considering her and Ben are married, Ben and carl have been best friends for 20 years and she used to work with Donna, with those connections there is surely a mutual friend/work mate in the mix somewhere

AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 14:27

Yeah I mean*

Unknownanon · 03/10/2019 14:30

Alice is unreasonable. Not so much for asking, but for demanding and now making it all about her. Perhaps she shouldn't go to the wedding and Ben should go alone.

is Ben upset about being no longer best man? Is he annoyed at c&d or relieved thinking now there's no drama?

Quaffy · 03/10/2019 14:31

I agree with the tenor of the thread that as it isn’t Alice’s wedding, she shouldn’t have tried to make demands. It’s not her wedding and I am certain this situation will have really stressed out C and D. I think it’s a shame when guests moan that things aren’t being done the way they want and put a dampener on the wedding.

That said, I would never have dreamed of putting someone on their own at a table at our wedding, anxiety or not. If it had been me I would have offered to have Alice on top table without being asked, and certainly wouldn’t have minded Ben not being on top table.

So I suppose my take is Alice is unreasonable to have kicked up a fuss but I don’t agree with sitting her on her own. I don’t have anxiety and am very chatty but it really isn’t any fucking fun making small talk on your own at a table of strangers.

ChicCroissant · 03/10/2019 14:31

I'm going to guess that the OP is Ben's parent or friend, because Ben seems to have got off scot-free here - surely he should be sharing the blame for pushing the point?

Unknownanon · 03/10/2019 14:33

And really, she knows no one else at all? Not a single person on the table?

Butteflyone1 · 03/10/2019 14:34

Alice is an utter selfish women. Anxiety or not, you suck it up for your friends special day. Alice will end up very lonely with no friends if she continues to be so unreasonable.

@AryaStarkWolf I also think OP is Alice as she's very quiet now...

SmileCheese · 03/10/2019 14:35

That said, I would never have dreamed of putting someone on their own at a table at our wedding, anxiety or not

This is the point me and other have been making for a while now though there is absolutely no way Alice doesn't know anyone else going to the wedding. Surely the best solution would have actually been her talking to Donna and Carl and asking to be seating with one of the people she knows she would be comfortable with. What she instead demanded was to sit at the top table.

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Quaffy · 03/10/2019 14:39

smilecheese

I agree in principle. I have read the thread and couldn’t see that the OP had come back and clarified whether Alice knows anyone at all, so was just going on the info that she doesn’t. Alice on a table with people she knows and Ben on top table is the best solution if she does know someone, which I agree seems likely.

burnoutbabe · 03/10/2019 14:39

If I was a I'd probably not attend if really I'd be spending the day on my own (or attend evening only). She will be alone getting to venue, during the service, then at dinner. As best man will be with groom mostly.
I'd have asked if best man could sit with me during dinner and if no, then just attend the evening part. No drama but it would be a pretty boring day on my tod and effort to make small talk all day.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 14:57

@Butteflyone1 hhhmmmm yeah, that's a fair point too. If she doesn't come back at all maybe you're right!

Potnoodledoo · 03/10/2019 15:04

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Ben got demoted and Alice didnt get her own way.

The B&G are heroes.Good on them for not bowing down.

ChilledBee · 03/10/2019 15:24

I was Alice once. What made me want to change rather than just keep taking medication was reading something about someone who inadvertently used their genuine suicidal tendencies to emotionally blackmail their loved ones into enabling their anxiety to control their lives. I was never suicidal, but I'd have totally shared Alice's perspective and I would have been unable to see anyone else's PoV.

Mental health conditions can make you very selfish. The only bad thing that has happened from me realising this is that it makes me less compassionate towards others who display the same behaviour and won't acknowledge it.

Itsallpetetong · 03/10/2019 15:28

she didn’t think it was fair she had been expected to sit by herself with people she didn’t know

Didn’t think it was fair!
I suffer badly with anxiety & I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come down with a sudden tummy bug to avoid social engagements that have caused me such panic but Alice was BVVVVVUR. She should have declined to go to the meal not demand to be sat at the top table. I’m not surprised they sacked him after .....

Things went back and forth without resolution
After being told no, there should have been no back & forth!

Alice disagreed. She said C&D are overreacting and she doesn’t see why she couldn’t been seated with Ben in the first place. She isn't sure she wants to go to the wedding now as she thinks it will be awkward.

Alice still can’t see why the B&G can’t have the seating plan they want? Confused Alice sound like a nightmare, she’s the one that’s caused it if there is any awkwardness.

Nofunkingworriesmate · 03/10/2019 15:29

If Alice is so handicapped by her anxiety that she as a grown adult can’t sit a few yards from her husband at a wedding and thinks it’s ok to make this embarrassing fuss then she should take this as a wake up call and get some serious therapy, with respect anxiety is a fucking awful condition been there myself but Alice has lost all perspective if she thinks it’s ok to carry on like this

diddl · 03/10/2019 15:35

Does she actually suffer from anxiety or just get anxious in new/different/social settings?

I'm sure a lot of us would feel anxious at the thought of a wedding at a table of strangers, but can generally push through.

Especially if most of it is spent eating/listening to the speeches!

Pinkcat231 · 03/10/2019 16:25

Been there, anxiety and all, although A’s could be worse. I thought about not attending but just got on with it and ended up feeling sorry for my partner as he was stuck at the end of the top table while my table was quite fun!

I never would have dreamed of asking them to move me or him, I was just flattered to be invited, and would’ve felt terrible if he’d been demoted because of me.

A was and still is being unreasonable, imagine if she doesn’t go after all the hassle to make her happy!

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