Boris Johnson should resign

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He's lied to the Queen and shut down parliament illegally. He's not fit to be PM and should resign now.

@LarLay360 😂

Boris Johnson took a gamble, and he was the face of promoting leave in the 2016. Do we want a government run by a gambler to determine our future?.Remember Amber Rudd's comment about him being the life and soul of the party but you wouldn't want him driving you home.

Another entry for Wikipedia in the career of Johnson. Read it if you are unfamiliar with his background. I have to admit to being fascinated by the whole political scene at the moment.

bellabasset

I find the Boris phenomenon very interesting

We have always known what he is about yet still voters will vote for him and he and his team will spin this as him doing best for the country

I don’t believe he is going anywhere he is like Teflon

I fought the law and the law won...
Surely he should be locked up in the tower, along with Cummins and The Mogg...

Looks like Geoffrey Cox is being set up as the fall guy.

Johnson shouldn't resign until an extension has been secured. Then he can get gone taking his shabby cabinet with him, along with the repulsive Cummings.

Boris too his decision from the advice given to him by The Attorney General.After he assured Boris nothing was unlawful about his planned action

I heard he told Johnson it was legal, which it was. There was no law to say he couldn't do it.
It has now been judged unlawful.

I saw this today and instantly thought of Boris Johnson

I don't want BJ to resign... yet. I'm enjoying watching him squirm too much.

He hasn't broken a law, and nobody knows what he said to the Queen, except him and HM. Given she is the leading constitutional expert in the UK, she can hardly have been misled.

I note that the Commons didn't mind swanning off on their very long summer hols, whilst Brexit needed to be sorted, but are now incandescent at the loss of a few days in the House. They'd be off for conference for three weeks anyway.

What I wonder is the unintended consequences that will come from this. If the Supreme Courts take their authority from HM, then they have voted to override her royal prerogative in proroguing parliament. Does this mean that the Supreme Court sees themselves as above the monarch from whom they draw their authority? If so, is this the end of the constitutional monarchy?

They'd be off for conference for three weeks anyway.

No, they were planning to vote on going to conference, or at the very least to shorten them.

Yea, like they voted on shortening their summer hols as well. They'd have been liable for conference centre fees, hotel bookings and all sorts if they had cancelled or shortened the bookings.

I mean the Queen is a figurehead, she doesn’t actually have any power. The last time royalty overrode parliament was over 100 years ago. She was always going to agree to prorogation whether or not she agreed with it. It’s all just a big pantomime basically.

and nobody knows what he said to the Queen, except him and HM. Given she is the leading constitutional expert in the UK, she can hardly have been misled

He didn't speak to the Queen. He sent Rees-Mogg on his behalf. Rees-Mogg knows what Johnson wanted to be said and he also knows what the Queen said, although I think it would only be formal regarding the request. The Queen doesn't have much choice on giving consent. It's a formality. She may have a personal opinion but she wouldn't have interfered in a political issue.

Does this mean that the Supreme Court sees themselves as above the monarch from whom they draw their authority?

eh? where on earth do you get that from?

The monarch isn't above the law or indeed the PM, they have made a ruling and we should respect and honour it.

If they hadn't taken this decision, then any PM could prorogue parliament for 51 weeks of each and every year until the 5yr FTPA was up.

Aside, i think the response from No 10 is scary! and will embolden those who will resort to violent means to achieve their ends.

If the Supreme Courts take their authority from HM, then they have voted to override her royal prerogative in proroguing parliament

They didn't vote on anything. The passed judgement on Johnson's motives for proroguing Parliament.
As the Queen has to listen to and be advised by the minister who was sent, she had no real choice which makes Johnson's actions even more disgusting.
You really should listen to the whole judgement.

Given she is the leading constitutional expert in the UK

She's really not a constitutional law expert as far as I know. She just gets told what to do and has to sign the papers. She's trusting the PM to advise her, that's how it works. She doesn't get to decide whether to do it or not.

Given she is the leading constitutional expert in the UK, she can hardly have been misled

Have you been drinking???

What University has she been too? University of life?? lol!

She is just a figure head, no less, no more, she will sign whatever the PM puts in front of her, whatever it is.

No, not yet, there is so much more damage he and his cronies can do to the Tories before October 31st.

jasjas She was educated in constitutional history, and has been the Queen for 70+ years. She has seen many PMs come and go and has learned a lot from some of them, especially Churchill. She knows the ins and outs better than most, and thus, being the embodiment of the Crown in parliament, is the leading expert. No-one else does what she does, do they?

No, I haven't been drinking.

Does one have to go to university to be educated (especially in the use of to and too!).

Given she is the leading constitutional expert in the UK, she can hardly have been misled

scaryteacher it would be scary if you were in fact a teacher. Especially of constitutional law

I think the eleven Supreme Court justices probably know a bit more

She was educated in constitutional history, and has been the Queen for 70+ years. She has seen many PMs come and go and has learned a lot from some of them, especially Churchill. She knows the ins and outs better than most, and thus, being the embodiment of the Crown in parliament, is the leading expert. No-one else does what she does, do they?

She is indeed knowledgeable. However, that doesn't change the fact that she had to approve the request and knowing the constitution,.....she knew she had to. Besides, she has to accept the reasons given, in good faith.

I agree but he won't as he thinks he has done nothing wrong and will worm his way out of it.

Boris has set his party leaders up for what he has done, they will be taking the fall for him. Hopefully the court case may force them to speak out against him. It has definitely ended what little trust there was left in the Tory party, hopefully this will carry through to a General Election.

I dont think he should resign. He didn't lie to the Queen and everything he has done, he did in good faith. Its only been decided it was illegal stopping parliament after it went to Supreme Court....there was no law in place, and it's still debatable really as it was a test case in that there has never been a case like it before. In other words there was no law in place to start with, it was decided it was illegal, after the event. I think it was also done with good intentions to stop any more delay.

Absolutely unfit for high office.