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To wonder if the Royal family will attend state schools once the private ones are abolished?

178 replies

Notcontent · 23/09/2019 13:33

Or will there be exceptions for the mega wealthy and powerful?

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Septembersunrays · 23/09/2019 18:58

Rancid, state school is extremely limited for those with dc with extra needs whatever they maybe.

I'd move one of my dc in a flash if I could. I know she would get extra support and help and they would be accountable.

State schools often lack transparency and accountability.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/09/2019 19:10

School places would have to be allocated by a completely random lottery so that you can't buy advantage.

(Morally, I find private schools more honest than buying expensive houses near the 'best' schools and than claiming superiority for using state education)

intermittentfasting · 23/09/2019 19:14

School places would have to be allocated by a completely random lottery so that you can't buy advantage.

That's absolutely ridiculous. How far would a child be expected to travel to get to school?

Sarahandco · 23/09/2019 19:17

Surely they will just send them to private schools overseas? Which is what all wealthy people who want to send their children to private school would do if they were abolished in the UK.

Tilltheendoftheline · 23/09/2019 19:20

School places would have to be allocated by a completely random lottery so that you can't buy advantage.

Hmmm and then some people will have travel that far it will impact their ability to actually work.

That's helping the poorest families. Confused

Cinammoncake · 23/09/2019 19:21

It would also be problematic potentially if children within one family all got randomly allocated different schools

Pamplemousecat · 23/09/2019 19:24

So basically if you take labours’ idea to its logical conclusion no one should be allowed to pay for anything that gives them an advantage in life. We must all be on a level playing field. No private schools, no extra curricular tuition, music or sport practice that is paid. Does it extend to housing, clothing too? Where does it stop? Someone having a more expensive haircut than someone else given them an unfair advantage at interview? Let’s strip everyone back to basics. Corbynite boiler suits for all and housing two rooms per family in compulsorily purchased accommodation. Doesn’t the race to the bottom sound like fun!?

hardrainsgonnafall · 23/09/2019 19:25

Distribute the assets?

The teachers are a school’s assets! They’ll sell off the buildings and some second hand books and furniture , the odd gerbil... and then what? Force the teachers to work in state? They won’t!

The schools don’t own these buildings you know! There’s huge mortgages on them. They can’t move double kids in and carry on as they were with teachers on 50% of the pay. They wouldn’t do it, they’d tutor or go overseas. Teacher brain drain.

SoupDragon · 23/09/2019 19:27

I could afford to send my DC to private school. I choose not to because it doesn't feel right to me to do so.

Did you send them to your closest school which is currently in special measures rather then send them to a private school?

SoupDragon · 23/09/2019 19:27

Rather than... ffs.

SoupDragon · 23/09/2019 19:28

I can't really understand why 93% of people wouldn't support this.

Possibly because a large proportion of that 93% can see why it won't work.

Lockheart · 23/09/2019 19:30

It wasn't that long ago the royals didn't go to school at all. I think Charles' generation was the first to go to school (I don't think the Queen had a formal education; back in the day it was all about training them to rule and not much else).

So I assume they'd just revert to that.

dowehaveastalker · 23/09/2019 19:30

It’s just a joke for stand up comedy- ‘do you remember the time JC and Labour wanted to abolish private schools?’ Ha ha ha. Come on. Nobody (but JC) takes this seriously.

pikapikachu · 23/09/2019 19:33

I can't really understand why 93% of people wouldn't support this.

Because many of the 93% will suffer from a smaller catchment area, fuller classrooms, less spent per head... House prices near state schools already attract a premium- the 93% do not want to compete against the 7% who have money to spend on buying property on the right road.

SteeperThanHell · 23/09/2019 19:35

I’d like to know the answer to that SouDragon. It’s all well saying that when you have decent state school provision - that sadly isn’t the case for many.

pikapikachu · 23/09/2019 19:35

I can't really understand why 93% of people wouldn't support this.

The 7% will buy an advantage in other ways - they can afford tutoring in academics, sport, music...

NailsNeedDoing · 23/09/2019 19:36

Political ideas like this seem to do the exact opposite of what they intend and actually create divisions amongst people. As if we didn't age enough of that in this country already. Such a small number of children even go to private school I don't think most people consider it to be a huge issue unless certain politicians stir it up.

It's an idea borne out of reverse snobbery, not because there could be any real benefits, there wouldn't be.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/09/2019 19:37

@Intermittantfasting and @Tilltheendoftheline... I didn't say it was a good idea just that it would get rid of postcode advantage and the discrepancy between schools in poorer and more affluent areas.
I found out last week that apparently 5 miles is considered a reasonable journey to a Primary School.
The system is bonkers enough already without complicating it further.

pikapikachu · 23/09/2019 19:43

Why would they want to give an unfair advantage to 7% You are also assuming that private is better than state. Private schools range from top class education to profit making business that will accept any bums in seats.

Don't forget that some of those private schools are SEN schools. I know a severely autistic boy at a residential SEN school paid for by the local authority as no state places exist to help him.

refusetobeasheep · 23/09/2019 19:45

It's the control aspect I find worrying. Choice taken from parents, far easier to start indoctrinating children when there is no alternative.

Benefitofthedoubt · 23/09/2019 19:51

What about the uniform companies that will go out of business when the £100 blazers are no longer needed?

Stevenson’s in St Albans (and their 28 stores all over the country)
Perrys in Leeds
Whittackers in Accrington, Bolton, Burnley, Leeds and half a dozen other places

That’s a lot of cloth and clothing manufacturing companies down the drain... so many in the traditional cloth producing towns in the north.

Well done Corbyn 🙄

GothMummy · 23/09/2019 19:51

It will never happen! They should loose charitable status though. And I say this as someone who has benefited from the private school system.

Tilltheendoftheline · 23/09/2019 19:54

@Aroundtheworldin80moves yes, I was simply raising the point that it's not good for poor families to do it that way either.

Pamplemousecat · 23/09/2019 19:54

It’s truly never going to happen. The ISC are biting back saying they’ll sue the arse off labour for breach of human rights

ALoadOfTwaddle · 23/09/2019 19:59

It's the control aspect I find worrying. Choice taken from parents, far easier to start indoctrinating children when there is no alternative.

Choice taken from well-off parents anyway. Those without the means to access private school will just have to make do with the indoctrination, I suppose.

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