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To wonder if the Royal family will attend state schools once the private ones are abolished?

178 replies

Notcontent · 23/09/2019 13:33

Or will there be exceptions for the mega wealthy and powerful?

OP posts:
RancidOldHag · 23/09/2019 18:09

"Why should a child’s education be limited because parents can’t afford a private school?"

What an indictment of state schooling!

Ponzischeme · 23/09/2019 18:11

About 7% of children in the UK go to private schools.

And yet the vast majority of CEOs, prime ministers and basically anyone in a position of power in this country has been privately educated.

Cinammoncake · 23/09/2019 18:21

And yet the vast majority of CEOs, prime ministers and basically anyone in a position of power in this country has been privately educated.

I'm not sure what the actual figures are for this but I suppose one factor might be that they're actually better educated.
That's what we want for all our children surely, not for everyone to be less well educated. I know at my state school, which was crap, I reached nowhere near 50 percent of my potential and didn't learn that much.

Ponzischeme · 23/09/2019 18:25

That's what we want for all our children surely, not for everyone to be less well educated

My point is that no one is going to improve state schools while private schools still exist. There is no need to. While the children of the wealthy and powerful have the advantage, why should anyone challenge the status quo?

I want to a fantastic state school and a shit private school, for what it's worth.

Whyohwhy2019 · 23/09/2019 18:27

It's this idealistic view that won't happen.

Or it will be like in Sweden where the royal children do go to a state funded school. It's a free school so it runs its own admissions process and surprise, surprise the school is full of wealthy children and/or children to celebs. You can forget about Joe Blog getting his children in there. But it is indeed a state funded school so the tax payers are paying for this privilege. Sounds good. Not.

Ponzischeme · 23/09/2019 18:27

I don't think it'll happen either by the way, I just think people are kidding themselves thinking they are ethical, because they aren't.

SleepyKat · 23/09/2019 18:29

Corbyn will have the royal family abolished along with private schools so won't be an issue.

hardrainsgonnafall · 23/09/2019 18:38

Whyohwhy2019 Yep. The jealous are so busing licking their lips at the thought of the tall poppies being cut down, they haven’t realised it’s a joke.

Are they going to abolish entrance exams also? If so, are they going to abolish SATs or steaming because of the results? Where are these schools to house hundreds of thousands of rich kids going to be built 😂

It will be them and us with them in your class and us, you, on the sidelines 😂

StillSurviving · 23/09/2019 18:39

Such a waste of time. Even if they get elected, this would be a huge battle in the courts, lasting years costing millions in fees(taxpayer) and eventually labour would lose it it anyway.

Please can we spend the time instead thinking about what can be done to tackle climate change, and spend the money we will save instead on tidal power (govt removed funding for a massive project in Severn estuary - why!!)

bananasandwicheseveryday · 23/09/2019 18:39

It's all very well saying that the assets etc will be distributed more fairly across state education - that might, just might, cover the extra costs that will be put on to state schools. But what about going forward, once that money has been spent and state schools are still having to fund extra teachers, extra classrooms, the heating, lighting and the cost of extra resources for the extra children who still keep coming even after the windfall money has run out?

As someone who works in education, I am actually glad that private education exists - I means there are parents paying their tax contribution towards state education but not actually using it because they choose to pay for their children to be privately educated. Those parents basically pay twice and it's children of poorer parents who benefit.

Ponzischeme · 23/09/2019 18:39

Why does "jealous" always get touted in these threads. It is actually possible to just think something is morally wrong and not be jealous.

I could afford to send my DC to private school. I choose not to because it doesn't feel right to me to do so.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 23/09/2019 18:40

They can ask Dianne Abbott for advice on how to get away with it.

Dongdingdong · 23/09/2019 18:42

Don't be silly OP - the royals mixing with us plebs? Pffft! They'll all be home schooled!

stopgap · 23/09/2019 18:44

They’ll be sent to schools in Switzerland, or maybe head to some of the more elite boarding schools on the US East coast. I could see someone like Zara Philips maybe doing a local state primary, but nobody else.

titchy · 23/09/2019 18:47

While the children of the wealthy and powerful have the advantage, why should anyone challenge the status quo?

And abolishing private schools won't change that advantage one bit. Unless you go properly communist and abolish extra curricular activities, make everyone earn the same salary, take into public ownership all property and make sure Ed and Jules and their children Jemima and Monty are housed in a two bed council flat next door to Wayne and Waynetta and their brood.

sue51 · 23/09/2019 18:47

It's just headline making nonsense. Labour have to come up with credible policies soon or cease to exist. Its heartbreaking to watch the party I have supported all my adult life descend into this parody of socialism.

Ponzischeme · 23/09/2019 18:48

And abolishing private schools won't change that advantage one bit

Of course it would.

titchy · 23/09/2019 18:49

Its heartbreaking to watch the party I have supported all my adult life descend into this parody of socialism.

Agree. Really don't know who to support right now.Sad

Tilltheendoftheline · 23/09/2019 18:49

Corbyn will have the royal family abolished along with private schools so won't be an issue.

The man who cant even deal with anti semitism in his own party. Yeah, course he will. Grin

Walkingdeadfangirl · 23/09/2019 18:50

Corbyn 2 E's @ A-Level was not even clever enough to figure out that abolishing private schools is illegal. People have a human right to educate their children privately, so he would have to leave the ECHR to do this.
And the royals would just use private tutors and home educate,

titchy · 23/09/2019 18:50

And abolishing private schools won't change that advantage one bit

Of course it would.

How? The wealthy will always have options. In isolation a policy like this doesn't remove those options.

Ponzischeme · 23/09/2019 18:53

I probably won't vote Labour, and actually I'm pretty centre on most things (even a little right of centre on some), but I am with the "hard left" on private schools. At the very least they should lose their charitable status.

Tilltheendoftheline · 23/09/2019 18:53

Of course it would.

No it wont. Theres a great academy near me. Over the years as it got better and better, the house have got more expensive. So people can get into the school. A cheap 2 bed terrace is minimum 160k. This is in yorkshire. 2.5 miles away the same house is 120k

So rich families wholly price cheaper families out of areas near good schools. And you cant get rid of catchment. Or stop people buying a house.

It wont do anything. I didnt attend private school, neither do my kids. Cant afford it. That's life.

And then what ban hobbies for affluent kids, holidays?

ALoadOfTwaddle · 23/09/2019 18:55

I think it could work but you'd have to turn all the private schools into comprehensive academies, ban the remaining grammars and use financial incentives to draw the best teachers into the poorer areas to avoid a situation where everyone rushes to buy near the 'good' schools. Ofsted would also need to stop making their gradings publicly available.

Septembersunrays · 23/09/2019 18:56

Cendrilon agree with every word.

One of the coldest, hardest, unemotional robot posters on here calls herself socialist and thinks she's on the moral side of history. Confused