To think this won't ruin Christmas?

[CaterpillarInTheGarden]

Mil was saying it won't be long until dc will believe in santa-claus (dc is only 22 months so surely it would be next Christmas not the upcoming Christmas ). I mentioned we were thinking of not doing the whole santa-claus thing and telling him the truth. Mil said how awful I was, and I will be ruining Christmas for my dc and that I'm a very selfish women.

AIBU to think that's a over reaction and it won't ruin Christmas. Any of you not do the whole santa-claus thing for Christmas?

If no Father Christmas and no Jesus then what are you celebrating?

If there's no mince pies, I'm out.

Santa's not real???

Let them be kids, I'm with your MIL!!

CaterpillarInTheGarden contrary to others telling you you're a killjoy, ruining Christmas, his childhood etc....whispers..."shhh...guess what... my seven yr old child knows the truth always has done and he is well adjusted with a happy childhood"
There is also a theory that by telling your child the truth and not making up childhood stories like Santa, the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy etc they are more likely to trust you and confide in you when they are older.
As a child I hated people telling me crap like "Santa won't come if you're naughty" etc I also worked out from a very early age that Santa would surely be fairer in the distribution of his wealth and give the poor kids better toys, food, clothes etc
I vowed never to tell any children rubbish like this, I also correct people-usually strangers telling my son the oh so delightful "Santa won't come if you..."
My son saw something in the shop he really wanted yesterday, I popped it in the trolley and advised him I would put it away for Xmas and he was happy with that. I will obviously buy him gifts he doesn't know about before anyone tells me I am a killjoy...
I have always told him his presents are from people who love him and work hard for their money spend it buying gifts for him. I am also lucky that we have friends with religions that don't celebrate Xmas. With regards him not telling others I tell him that people all believe different things ie some people believe in God/Jehovah/Buddha/Thor or agnostic etc and similarly some people believe in Santa etc and some don't
Remember, you will get other people trying to force their opinions on you with everything from breast v bottle feeding, controlled crying(not a believer to me babies cry for a reason, downside is my son still wants to go to bed with me agedseven...upside is my son still wants me to go to bed with him aged seven- there is a flip side to every choice) , potty training.... all the way to videogames exposure and allowing partners of your children to stay over as teenagers etc so follow your instinct on what is best for your family and child and stand firm...

Your kid will miss out on the magic

What’s magical about lying to your kids?

Your kid will miss out on the magic

Other forms of magic are available

other parents will hate you when your kid tells their 3 year old the truth. You will be labelled as THAT parent

Why would a kid automatically do this? We didn’t. DD didn’t.

Have just asked DD (9) what she thinks about Santa. It’s never been a concept we have pushed but of course she’s been around it since birth.

She’s replied “scientific impossibility. He’d have to travel faster than the speed of light.”

#Proud.

@CaterpillarInTheGarden

sorry but I haven't read the full thread just your posts and skim read others. so I don't know if anyone else in my position has posted....

I was brought up not believing in santa. I felt really sad, that I was missing out and left out because of this. it made me feel odd and awkward about conversations about Christmas. obviously I don't recall how i felt when I was very young but having a young family now I would imagine that they'd be confused at the very least. so we do Santa. but we try to get the other messages we like about Christmas across too. such as giving and spending time with family etc.

I think if you can find a way of doing Santa in a way you're comfortable with then please do so for your dc. I believe they will thank you in the future.

I don't think the extreme negative responses you've got are necessary though.

Baguetteaboutit Sainsbury's have mince pies in(in the free from not sure about the other aisle) .... already scoffed a packet..... can't wait for costa to get the GF ones in

@Lifeover in any nursery class will be loads of kids who don’t believe in santa and don’t get presents from santa - from other cultural backgrounds, religions etc ... no need to be panic

Why on earth would your child to miss out on this magical time in their lives that doesn’t seem to last 2 minutes. Even for you the absolute joy as a parent to see your children filled with excitement on Xmas eve then to watch them wake up and run downstairs to see if he’s been...it is just the best!! You can say you have to send the gifts to Santa so they can’t ask for the world but it’s not about money it’s about the magic! The whole build up at school is writing letters to Santa making food for Rudolph etc etc...it’s just such an amazing time!!

Your kid will miss out on the magic....

why the hell do you think Disney was invented 🤣

My son's 20 , he was angry at about 8 years old when he found out it was a big lie. He'd rather have known the truth. I loved it though!!!

Oh don't tell me this OJZJ I'll be the size of a house before I crack open the advent calendar.

I think there are two things I can take from this thread:

1, @Boobiliboobiliboo is clearly a troll...

2, @CaterpillarInTheGarden I think you’re judgment is quite clearly skewed by your MIL. You’ve said in previous posts that her views make you ‘dig your heels in’ if she has a particular view. It really would be a shame if your children miss out on certain things just because you want some kind of one man up ship with the MIL. Just tell her to p*ss off...

The very idea of a strange man coming into my home (not to mention my bedroom) & seeing everything you do with his judgy pants on (naughty list indeed) filled me with utter horror as a child. Particularly coming into my room at night. And that was before ‘stranger danger’ teaching.
You might be inadvertently subjecting your child to untold stress. I’m not exaggerating when I say from 1st December I had nightmares as a child in dread of Xmas Eve. And I only admitted it a few years ago!

Father Christmas is a very good way to eventually explain to children not to take everything adults tell them as the truth.

DD firmly believed in Father Christmas and loved all the stories and rituals till she was about 8. She also enjoyed bible stories and songs.

She now knows that just because something is written in a book and lots of adults tell you it is true, it doesn't mean it is the case. Jesus and Father Christmas are now both firmly in the 'fun but untrue stories' camp as far as she is concerned.

YANBU I was completely honest from the outset and told them that whilst Santa Claus was a lovely myth, it was not true. I did ask them to "keep the magic" and not tell others (which as far as I know they kept to). Our reasoning was that we didn't tell them about religion or present other fiction as truth, so why would we with Santa Claus. They had presents from us as their parents, as far as I'm concerned it spoilt nothing!

@Boobiliboobiliboo is clearly a troll...

Because I dare to live life/think differently?!

I also won’t be teaching my children to lie to their friends and pretend Father Christmas is real either

So just because you feel it's the way to go, you get to make that choice for other families and upset a loaf of children, because you feel you are right? I would be seriously pissed off if I found another mother had intentionally encouraged their child to tell mine when it wasnt there place.

Teaching them respect is better, like I tell DSD 12 that it's ok not to believe in santa/tooth fairy ect but it's not ok to spoil the magic for the younger ones.

It ok to do your own thing but it's not ok to push it on others...

@Boobiliboobiliboo no because you are so angry and unnecessarily call people twats!

1, @Boobiliboobiliboo is clearly a troll...

Why? Because their 9 year old is intelligent?

I didn’t tell my kids Santa was a thing but didn’t tell them he wasn’t. No Jesus either! We have lots of Christmas traditions of our own and they have always loved Christmas.

@Boobiliboobiliboo no because you sound unhinged...

(I think I may have missed some posts 🤣)