To not tip when eating out?

[JemimaPuddleDucksPuddle]

Saw a thread on another board that mentioned tipping when eating out and whether or not you should. The majority of posters seemed to think of a person as being tight fisted or ungenerous if they don't tip. I disagree and don't tip as a matter of routine, only if the service is exceptional. AIBU?

Where ds1 works (only a small place) tips are split between all the staff. So the chefs etc get a share just as front of house do. Don't assume that a tip is equating to a huge wage for the server!

Pretty sure there are laws against giving a police officer money- wouldn’t that usually be considered bribery?!

Always tip myself. I would be slightly embarrassed for a non tipper. Makes them appear tight miserly and lacking in manners.

UK minimum wage is only £8.21ph for 25 and above. In most restaurants and bars I’ve worked in a majority of staff are in their late teens/early twenties and earning an average of £7.30-£7.80. It’s liveable but only just.

Like PP have said, tipping makes up sometimes for the abuse hurled at FOH staff and buys us a pint at the end of a 12 hour shift on your feet with no break. When i worked in hospitality we never expected a tip but it did make our day, even if it was a pound.

@awineaday I work 13 hour shifts in my job, on my feet all day, including on Christmas Day. You’re saying waitresses deserve it more?

FYI, I’ve been a waitress so I’m not having a go. I just don’t understand how waitresses deserve tips but others don’t.

To those stating that you get minimum wage of £8+ph You do realise a lot of companies do not pay that amount as wages. Many pay by age, for example at age 19-20 you get paid £6.15 an hour, even in large companies. So after working 12 hours you’ll only earn around £74. Tipping does help out the person... But I suppose it shouldn’t be the customers having to tip, it should be the establishments increasing wages and making it fair for everyone doing the same job.

I always tip if the service has been good.

It’s custom to tip wait staff. You can rail against it all you want but in our culture that’s how it is. Asking why other jobs don’t get tips is abit silly.

I never tip for takeaway, but always tip if I'm eating in

(However, I eat several times per week at the same 2 restaurants, so if I didn't tip, there might be hidden snot or poo crumbs in my meal )

I tip everyone who I know has private access to my food, ESPECIALLY fast food delivery driver, same reasons I never complain in restaurants unless I'm finished and not planning to go back....

So on one thread today we have posters saying shops should be closed or close early on Sundays so the staff can get time off, not giving a shit about hospitality workers who’ve always had to work anti social hours, and now they’re not even worth a quid or two on top of the cost of your meal.

Some people really don’t give a shit about people working in service/hospitality do they. What a time to be alive.

Yes, it is custom and their wages are set in the light of that custom

Always unless the service is dire.

I think people who don’t, particularly those who gloat about how they don’t are tight and when they come out with the ‘’I don’t get tipped in my job’’ crap sound very bitter.

Depends - min wage for eg 17yos is appalling

I think people who don’t, particularly those who gloat about how they don’t are tight and when they come out with the ‘’I don’t get tipped in my job’’ crap sound very bitter.

Exactly this. I don’t get tipped in my job but then I don’t work til late night evenings and weekends on the minimum wage so it’s not really comparable.

It's different if the customer is on NMW themself and just eat out a couple of times per year
However, some customers are just tight

I can afford to tip, so I do so
I get great service at my 2 fav restaurants, they know me well; they deserve their tips

I only tip if the service and food was exceptional tbh, or I can see the server is rushed off their feet and still doing an amazing job, I also try to make sure the person I want to tip gets the tip.

I question places that add 'gratuity' to the bill and if service was standard or poor I ask for it to be removed.

Like others have said they get paid the same as me to do their job and I don't get or expect a tip.

They way I see it is, I just washed your deceased relative in A&E, or stitched your child back together, or cleaned up your poo. I don’t get tipped. Why should I tip for bringing me my pizza when you get paid the same and probably better than I do! 😬

I always tip unless the meal/service is dreadful. The tips generally get shared between all the staff and the extra money makes a huge difference. My son is a chef, works horrendous hours but gets paid very poor wages. The tips he receives means that he can pay his bills. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t tip.

I’m a waitress. I serve pre-paid events now so tipping isn’t a thing, however the restaurant I used to work in didn’t have a tip jar (you paid at the till) and didn’t add a service charge. It wouldn’t bother me at all if people didn’t tip (which 90% of the time they didn’t for the above reasons). I worked for my wage with no expectations of tips and I gave everyone good service because I wanted to! I generally tip in restaurants but I don’t really like it as a concept and I find the 12.5% places add to be too much.

57Varieties it's a real insight into humanity isn't it. During a time when more and more people eat out as well.

Decent servers spend 1-2 hours getting to know the people they're serving, building up a rapport with them, making them into regulars, giving them tips on altering the menu to suit their tastes, recommending drinks based on their favourite ingredients, entertaining their children etc. It's not comparable to bus drivers or librarians or checkout workers who you probably spend 1 minute talking to. Also, minimum wage for 16-20 year olds is £6.15, not £8.21. and restaurant workers ten to get treated like absolute shit by people who think they're better than them. I've cleaned up human shit far more times than I'd have liked to in the past nine years.

@Zebraaa
Hi. Not sure what job you do so can't comment but as I have worked as a waitress and know how tough it is if I get good service I want to tip to show my appreciation.

@31weeksgone work is hospitality then! Very little poo, no stitches and tips!

Or did you choose a vocation because you wanted to make a difference and a tenner at the end of the day wouldn’t make up for that?

It depends where you live. Tipping in America is expected and very ingrained into the culture! Not tipping there, even for bad service makes you a total asshole.

It’s not necessary to tip in the U.K. but I do so if service is exceptional or they have made lots of effort to accommodate (big group etc).

I tip for great service when I eat out, which is rare as I wait and save to go to nice places.
Last time I left a £30 tip, BUT, it was an expensive meal, and the service was exceptional, it made the meal so much better, even though the food was great too.
It was for my Dd's 18th birthday so very much a one off.