To not tip when eating out?

[JemimaPuddleDucksPuddle]

Saw a thread on another board that mentioned tipping when eating out and whether or not you should. The majority of posters seemed to think of a person as being tight fisted or ungenerous if they don't tip. I disagree and don't tip as a matter of routine, only if the service is exceptional. AIBU?

I never tip and I don't understand why some people do.

People are paid to do a job. You don't tip the checkout girl, or the shop girl who went to find your size of shoe out the back, or lad in Starbucks who made your coffee - so why on earth are you tipping the waitress and the hairdresser? What do they do that deserves extra pay when nobody else gets it?

Hairdressing is hardly a low paid job these days either!

I’ve waitressed and worked in retail.

Hospitality is SO much harder so comparing them and saying well they both get paid minimum wage isn’t reasonable in my opinion.

I’d not choose to work hospitality if I didn’t get tipped.

If the service is good I tip 10/15%, if it’s great I tip 20%.

I would think you were really tight.

Depends on the restaurant, at a pizza restaurant where all they have done is taken an order and brought 2 drinks and 2 pizzas, no, whereas if you spend the whole evening, and they look after you well, take your coat , serve bread (complimentary) etc then 10% ish is fair, I don't tip more because they are paid to be there in the U.K.

Love it when American relatives suggest leaving a note on a pub table

American friends left £1s on the bar after buying a round. They were surprised when the coins were returned to them.

We explaining about offering to buy 'a drink ' rather than leaving cash.

I don't understand why customers are expected to give workers extra money. Employers should be paying their employees a decent wage to start with - the general public shouldn't be subsidising them.

Businesses should be making enough money to pay their workers properly.

Only time I tip these days, is if I've had exceptional food) service. I don't just for bod standard experience. I used to be a waitress (before NMW) so I do understand it's appreciated but nowadays, with fair wages, not so much. Plus, I'm on maternity and have two small children so we have to watch the pennies a bit as well. Can't afford to tip every single service person.

YABU. Where restaurants have a service charge, I would leave a tip unless the service was poor.

I don't socialize with people who don't tip, they can dress it up all they want, they are simply tight.

I tip my hairdresser out of fear. He is a good stylist but his conversation and behaviour in the salon reveal that his morals are weak and he is given to acts of petty vengeance so if I cheesed him off he would ruin my hair.

I’d think a tip is part of the cost of eating out and we always tip unless it’s been poor service or grim food. That being the case we’d rarely pay full price. Good service should be rewarded.
My guess is most people eating out earn above the minimum wage and those in hospitality earn low wages for unsociable hours.

Lots of places just put all the tips together the divide it among the staff equally - great if you only do 16 hours a week and as little work as you can get away with, not so good if you're f/t and work harder.

I tip 10% but often feel annoyed at doing so, for the reasons already mentioned. Only time I don't mind is if the server/staff member is clearly too young to be getting adult minimum wage.

If we're using vouchers (once a year we have a Pizza Express freebie blowout with Tesco vouchers for example) I add a massive tip because the meal was essentially free, however.

No I hardly ever tip. I don’t believe tips go to the staff . Also, prices are high enough as it is!
I agree that it’s ludicrous to tip waiting staff but not all the other people we encounter during our day. You pay for a meal or haircut, the prices are usually very high anyway. Why tip on top?
Compared to the continent we pay much more for food and services.

@Teacher22
You need to find a new hairdresser. Your relationship with him should not be one of fear!

I always tip, in cash, slow service, whatever, the majority of meal problems are not the fault of the wait staff. Had to stop eating out with a friend when I noticed her scoop up the tip when she thought I wouldn't notice. I was so embarassed by it that I've never mentioned it to her.

30messolini9

They really don't.
Unless you think £8.98 is a "fair wage".

That's more an hour than I get, are you going to tip sales assistants like me? 🤔

You can have your reasons and choose not to tip, but I personally thinks it makes you look tight.

I used to only ever tip is the service was good enough and if I had the same server throughout our visit.

If it’s different people bringing us different parts of the meals, taking orders, taking payment.. then I’m not tipping them all.

That being said, after speaking to a friend who is a waitress, everywhere she has worked outs tips into a pot to be shared out equally. So I stopped tipping altogether. I tip as a thanks to our server for giving us the right amount of attention during our meal.. I don’t want to put my money into every Tom, Dick, and Harry’s pocket.

I also find it extremely unfair on the server that they should share their tips. There is always the one slightly lazy colleague who takes a lot of breaks, goes to the bathroom to text, sits at he bar talking to the barmen etc. Why is it fair that the ones who work hard and get rewarded for it share those tips with the ones who didn’t bother to work for it?

And what tickles my chin more is when a tester ain’t automatically put a ‘service charge’ on your bill! Excuse me!? I’m noticing this more and more, I’m also getting braver in asking it to be removed, especially when the service was shite and they still expect a tip.

Sobeyondthehills read my previous post about the difference in services provided by servers to other jobs. I have worked in retail and hospitality, and hospitality is 10 times harder with a lot shittier customers; everyone I've worked with who has done both sectors has agreed. This thread is evidence itself in people's attitudes towards service jobs.

I wonder if these lnon tippers " are also the people who eat in restaurants and order jug after jug of tap water with ice and lemon, and then every person in the group insists on paying by card.

Just be aware non tippers that a large proportion of us are 😮. It’s gauche tight and mannerless not to tip and makes me take the view the person doesn’t really know how to behave properly when going out for a meal. I’ve never eaten out with a non tipper ever though.

My mum is an eye contact tipper. She likes to hand it to the person and for them to know she's given a tip. I find it highly embarrassing 😳

I tip for exceptional service and will continue to do so

I actually wish there was some way of tipping other professions.

But just because there isn’t doesn’t stop me tipping waiting staff.

National minimum wage is fair for waiting staff. It's an u skilled job. But the amount of people who turn their noses up to it when they apply because they want 10 an hour... It's laughable. They end up working in a shop for minimum wage regardless. I don't know what it is about being a waiter but they think they should earn more. It's not an easy job no. Nor is any customer facing job. But it's unskilled and those who have studied and go to work in their area of study don't even earn 10 an hour in most cases.

My spelling is awful today. I need caffeine