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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

Smile

Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.
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cozietoesie · 17/10/2019 19:32

Try 3.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/10/2019 19:35

Feck, Roussette, "attention span of a goldfish" is my other go-to expression in context.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/10/2019 19:36

Give us a clue, cozietoesie? I just get "Video unobtainable", which is highly frustrating.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/10/2019 19:38

Maybe Elijah Cummings' wife will take up his mantle, being a politician herself, I think? Or is this too early for her? RIP Elijah Cummings, so sad.

RhinoskinhaveI · 17/10/2019 20:10

Sondland throws him under the bus, thereby emboldening the throng of others who want him under that bus.
Gonna be a long line of buses a comin' for ya Donny boy:)

littlebillie · 17/10/2019 21:19

I thought the letter was a fake .... surely it wasn't a real letter 😮

cozietoesie · 17/10/2019 21:24

Probably me,, Questions.

cozietoesie · 17/10/2019 21:27

The letter seems real enough.

cozietoesie · 17/10/2019 21:46

I couldn't believe its contents either, though.

PerkingFaintly · 17/10/2019 21:46

littlebillie, alas, that is a real letter from the President of the United States to the President of Turkey.Shock

Sender and recipient both say so.

That's the great dealmaker in action, influencing people and making deals... Not.

Roussette · 17/10/2019 21:51

littlebillie oh yes definite real, it was released by the WH in a blunder to prove he tried to tell Erdogan to do his push through NSyria nicely. The date of the letter is key.
Of course this backfired as it always does.
His aides are fools, but none so big a fool as Trump.

From the Guardian

“Let’s work out a good deal!” Trump wrote in the letter dated 9 October, whose authenticity was confirmed to various news outlets by the White House

Even the Kremlin questioned the legitimacy of the letter.
The Kremlin questioned the letter’s tone. “You don’t often encounter such language in correspondence between heads of state. It’s a highly unusual letter,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call.

Also

@colvinj
Per the same source, Trump handed out copies of the letter he'd sent to Erdogan at today's meeting in what was interpreted as an attempt to show everyone how tough he'd been.

cozietoesie · 17/10/2019 22:06

tough??

lionheart · 17/10/2019 22:29

He thinks he has saved the Kurds by showing "tough love."

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cozietoesie · 17/10/2019 22:34

Try 2 again.

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TheClaws · 17/10/2019 23:07

Corruption. (This is real, BTW)

Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche
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BREAKING: The G7 will be held at Trump National Doral, the president's property in Florida.

TheClaws · 17/10/2019 23:14

Trump is declaring this a huge, historic win for the US. It is not. It is exactly what Turkey wanted in the first place - the strip of land the Kurds occupied in Syria - and they have also won the retreat of the US and their 50 remaining nuclear weapons, to the bargain.

Reuters Top News @Reuters
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Turkey has agreed to a five-day ceasefire in northeast Syria to allow for withdrawal of Kurdish forces, Vice President Mike Pence said, after talks with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan reut.rs/2qfKjvk

TheClaws · 17/10/2019 23:31

Energy Sec, Rick Perry - involved in the Ukraine scandal- is resigning.

Caroline Orr @RVAwonk
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NEW: Energy Secretary Rick Perry is resigning!

t.co/KLefKS0TTs?amp=1

TheClaws · 18/10/2019 00:13

Ceasefire apparently already broken.

Baxtiyar Goran @BaxtiyarGoran
#BREAKING: Turkish army resumes bombardment of Serekaniye (Ras al-Ain) despite the agreed ceasefire - Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

twitter.com/BaxtiyarGoran/status/1184941890627686434?s=20

Baxtiyar Goran @BaxtiyarGoran
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@BaxtiyarGoran
#BREAKING: heavy clashes break out between Kurdish forces and Turkish army/ extremists in Serekaniye (Ras al-Ain) - Rudaw correspondent in #Rojava.

AcrossthePond55 · 18/10/2019 01:39

Shit's just flying around so fast I don't know which way to duck!

DH and I feel we're sitting right on the edge of something. We just don't know what!

Elijah Cummings death was really a great loss to the House. He was fearless and tireless despite ill health. His seat will be filled by special election. But the GOP governor has some leeway to fix the date.

www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-congress-explainer-20191017-20191017-l6pb5fo3dnf3dnotckfv7qqqpm-story.html

lionheart · 18/10/2019 07:28

Do they really think that only card carrying 'deep state' Democrats have something to 'get over'? They must realise that everyone is watching and those pro-impeachment stats are rising.

So, playing only to the base with this kind of defiance seems odd unless they really have no other choice at this stage.

'For 39 minutes Thursday, White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney turned the press briefing room into a sort of confession chamber, openly admitting to several acts that could deepen the legal predicament for the president. Trump is facing an impeachment inquiry into whether he has abused his office for personal and political gain.

Mulvaney’s retort to those charges came in a three-word mantra that now forms the central theme of the White House impeachment response: “Get over it.”'

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/get-over-it-mulvaneys-twin-admissions-put-trump-at-the-center-of-emoluments-and-ukraine-controversies/2019/10/17/28ca595c-f10c-11e9-b648-76bcf86eb67e_story.html

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Roussette · 18/10/2019 07:52

'Get over it' is going to come back and bite them on the arse methinks.

Comparisons Trump style... Shock

twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1184936533612060673

lionheart · 18/10/2019 09:59

YEP.

www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html

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lionheart · 18/10/2019 11:14

Gloves off.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/james-mattis-mocks-donald-trump-overrated-general

'“I earned my spurs on the battlefield … and Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor,” Mattis said.'

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