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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

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Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.
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lionheart · 13/10/2019 18:35

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/11/military-officers-trump/598360/

'Military officers are sworn to serve whomever voters send to the White House. Cognizant of the special authority they hold, high-level officers epitomize respect for the chain of command, and are extremely reticent about criticizing their civilian overseers. That those I spoke with made an exception in Trump’s case is telling, and much of what they told me is deeply disturbing. In 20 years of writing about the military, I have never heard officers in high positions express such alarm about a president. Trump’s pronouncements and orders have already risked catastrophic and unnecessary wars in the Middle East and Asia, and have created severe problems for field commanders engaged in combat operations.'

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 13/10/2019 18:49

Just in case anyone thought he didn’t before, Trump definitely has blood on his hands now.

Esper: Turkey 'appears to be' committing war crimes in northern Syria
thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/465564-esper-turkey-appears-to-be-committing-war-crimes-in-northern-syria

lionheart · 13/10/2019 19:04

I've seen the footage that people say is of the murder of Hervin Khalif (raped and stoned??). The Turkish media reports that she has been "neutralized by a successful operation."

The footage of the men who are bound and shot, and separate film of the murder of Kurdish women.

The refugees and the bodies of the children.

I wish for once that this were all fake news.

How much worse will it get?

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cozietoesie · 13/10/2019 19:21

Worse.

lionheart · 13/10/2019 19:25

That self-serving fuckwit and his minions.

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cozietoesie · 13/10/2019 20:30

Stay cool. You'll need your wits about you.

lionheart · 13/10/2019 20:36

Gin ?

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cozietoesie · 13/10/2019 20:37

Definitely.

lionheart · 13/10/2019 20:58
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cozietoesie · 13/10/2019 21:32

Mattis takes lives seriously.

lionheart · 13/10/2019 21:34

Republicans signed up to Checks and Balances:

checks-and-balances.org/new-statement-from-checks-and-balances-on-president-trumps-abuse-of-office/

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Lweji · 13/10/2019 21:58

Never mind the escaped ISIS fighters, they'll just end up in Europe.
Says SCROTUS.

mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/trump-i-m-not-worried-if-isis-fighters-escape-syria-they-ll-go-to-europe-e7fk3tuhRU6yNUhoXdIdpQ/

Roussette · 13/10/2019 22:34

It's so awful in Syria at the moment, just seen such distressing footage. One Kurdish man begging to be shot as all his 3 children have been killed in a house bomb. Why isn't anything happening? Surely the GOP cannot justify any of this.

Iran and Russia are moving in

Trump plays golf.

Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
Scoop: Despite Trump’s assurance that the US was taking the most dangerous ISIS detainees out of Syria amid mounting chaos, it only got the two “Beatles.” The Kurds didn’t let the US extract the five dozen other high value detainees—and now it’s too late.

lionheart · 14/10/2019 05:59

They can't.

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lionheart · 14/10/2019 06:00

www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/trump-video.html

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Lweji · 14/10/2019 07:48

Trump sides with Russia in blocking UN disapproval of bombings or intervention.
euobserver.com/foreign/146242

And doesn't pay UN, along with a few countries, but it's their main contributor. Meaning it might not have enough to pay staff salaries soon.
It's been on Portuguese news. Very hard to find anything in English.

www.un.org/press/en/2019/sgsm19799.doc.htm

www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PB2OD

TheNorthWestPawsage · 14/10/2019 08:39

This was in The Independent a couple of days ago.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/un-running-out-money-finance-guterres-secretary-general-united-nations-a9148601.html?amp

Lweji · 14/10/2019 09:10

It's come to the Kurds striking a deal with Assad. Confused

bit.ly/2MQAa03

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lionheart · 14/10/2019 21:21

Distractions.

www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/trump-video.html

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cozietoesie · 14/10/2019 21:32

Morning Joe.
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