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To be getting more and more concerned regarding male colleague?

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Gratedcheeseontop · 16/09/2019 20:27

NC for this.
I’m in a difficult situation and I’m unsure of where to go from here.

Currently working with a male, I’ll call him Henry for the sake of this, and In the past few weeks he has;

-Messaged me constantly about trivial things, I’ll get messages at least every other day. I don’t reply to these.

  • messages me when we’re both in work, in the same room??
  • I constantly catch him staring at me during the day. If I move to nip to the loo or go on break his head shoots up and he’ll be watching me. He’s also sent me a few messages along the lines of “ooh did xyz piss you off? I saw the way you frowned” or “what’s up, you look sad?”

-last week he asked another member of staff (his friend) to leave work early so he could tell me, to my face, that he ‘really liked me’. This made me feel so bloody uncomfortable and I didn’t know how to react. I don’t like being forced into a situation and that’s exactly how I felt. It was just Henry and I at work at the time also, which put me on edge. Henry told me that he had specifically asked other work colleague to leave early so he could speak to me alone. He’d planned it all out. Other members of staff were aware of his plan and not one of them decided to tell me and give me a bit of warning.

-since telling me how he feels, Henry has upped the number of messages he sends me. I’ve told him that I would like us to stay as colleagues and that’s it. I didn’t think I’d have to explain this as I have a DP (very long term relationship, 10+ years) and a DC- something I reiterated to him just to be crystal clear.

Henry did tell me that he understood and respected my decision, and it won’t make things weird, but has became really persistent. He won’t stop messaging me daily, if I don’t reply within an hour he’ll send another message, and if I don’t reply to that one he’ll send another. It feels like he feels entitled to my time? It’s borderline possessive! I don’t even speak to my own family or closest friend every hour of every day, so I’ve no idea why he thinks i should be messaging him back when he says so.

I’ve asked DP not to get involved as it will aggravate the situation, although he does want to.
I can’t speak to my manager about this, as he will tell the owner of the company- who is very good friends with Henry. It’s a very small, family run type business, so no HR or anything like that.

It seems like he’s obsessed with me, and I’m genuinely getting a bit scared. He’s messaged me 8 times today because I haven’t replied. I feel like I can’t block his number as it would make it terribly awkward at work, and he’ll just find another way to contact me. Thanks to very slack security measures in my workplace henry also knows where I live.
He is very close to the men in the office, and quite a few of the women. It will be spun as if I’m the heartless bitch who blocked him and complained to management purely for him wanting to be my ‘friend’. It would make work absolute hell to be honest!

Luckily I have another job lined up which I’m due to start in around 6 weeks, so I don’t have to put up with this forever. I’m just getting worried as he’s getting more and more intense, I don’t know him that well at all, so how do I know that he won’t take it too far one day? What if desperation drives him to do something?

I have 6 shifts left with him where we’ll be left alone for around an hour together, and I’m dreading them. The last message I had off him was along the lines of me making things “weird” by not replying to him.

Any advice please? This is really bothering me.

OP posts:
Cocobean30 · 17/09/2019 17:13

Be careful op there’s nothing stopping him from turning up at your house once you’ve left. Make sure work are completely aware of it in case you need to go to the police in the future. I’m really glad you are telling work tomorrow! I bet he has done this many times and will continue to

ThatCurlyGirl · 17/09/2019 17:19

Ah well done OP I'm so glad you sent that message and not the super polite one suggested before!

Unfortunately people like him read into anything vaguely polite / apologetic as a green light to continue / forbidden romance / wanting to be chased etc.

Hope it all goes OK and well done again, this stuff is easier said than done and I know the tummy flip feeling when you send something like that Thanks

HoldMyLobster · 17/09/2019 17:22

Well done.

My sister was (eventually) sexually assaulted by the 'nice man' who'd been harassing her at work.

She was then dismissed from her job for refusing to work with him.

The company was taken to the cleaners at the eventual tribunal.

Italiangreyhound · 17/09/2019 17:39

Well done @Gratedcheeseontop You are a star. You have done nothing wrong at all. This may is a prize jerk and it is him making your life awkward.

Weird, weird man.

So sorry.

@NameChange84 I am so sorry you had such a terrible experience but thank you for sharing your experiences with Gratedcheeseontop and helping her through this complete shit situation.

Thanks
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 17/09/2019 17:39

The last message from Henry said that I’d made it SO awkward for the both of us now. Nice.

Fuck off, Henry! There are not many posts on this site that make me boil with rage (I'd spend my life angry if so) but this one seriously raised the red mist. The nerve of him.

Incidentally, PPs above are bang on the money about the OP's LTR/DC. Not only because she should indeed have full autonomy over who she has a relationship with, but also because whackadoos like Henry are deluded enough to see her loved ones as the only obstacle to their being together. Ugh.

DARVO stories are coming thick and fast on Mumsnet over the last couple of days. Subject behaves like an unmitigated arsehole, target gets pissed off, subject denies target's objections and goes on the attack, then puts themselves in the role of the victim with their target now nicely positioned as the aggressor. These are classic and easily recognizable technique of the abuser.

You can spot them a mile away. Go on the offensive and enlist the support of your employer, OP, and if 'Henry' takes offence, too bad.

The guy is bad news.

bombomboobah · 17/09/2019 17:43

that last message could be interpreted as you've made it awkward for him (by exposing his unacceptable & sinister behaviour) and now he's going to make it awkward for you.
His phrasing also hints that he sees you and him as an item, that he thinks there is an 'us'

ThatCurlyGirl · 17/09/2019 17:46

Oh god @HoldMyLobster your poor sister that's horrible.

Let's hope your work are supportive - do push them to take some responsibility for keeping you safe while you are working there.

A new board director of a company I worked for just out of uni put his hand up my skirt at a work event.

He did it to three of us (we all didn't realise at the time) and my MD didn't fire him or even give him a formal warning.

MD called us into his office and said that he had called the culprits wife and told her because that was a worse punishment. Jesus fucking Christ.

His poor wife was about 8 months pregnant too. So that's three staff and a pregnant women upset and zilch work consequences for the man who touched us up.

If that had been a company in America they'd have been sued by dozens of people who worked there, total shit show.

I handed in my notice around that time.

ThatCurlyGirl · 17/09/2019 17:50

And OP, immediately forward any communication attempts from him at all to your manager. Every time. If DHH (dickhead Henry) does keep trying to contact you then your manager will sadly do more about it if they are having to deal with each attempt directly.

TonTonMacoute · 17/09/2019 17:55

Wanted to wish you good luck OP, and to say this.

You say that he gets on well with the others in the office, and you don't want to alienate them. Don't assume that you will.

Years ago this happened where I was working, and one guy became obsessed with a young woman there, who I was friends with. Like you it was a small and quite informal workplace.She confided in me, and I went to his line manager who had a long chat. Luckily he got the message and everything was resolved with no unpleasant atmosphere and no loss of dignity.

I know my DH would feel the same, in fact he had to deal with something vaguely similar with a friend and colleague last year. There is no way he would side with a friend against a perfectly innocent woman if his friend was behaving this badly.

ShirleyPhallus · 17/09/2019 18:04

Spot on advice and glad you acted on it. He’s a wang. Stay strong OP, lots of luck for your meeting with your manager

TapDanceJazzHands · 17/09/2019 18:40

Well done OP.

I love Mumsnet for its wisdom in situations like this. I too would have been naturally wanting to keep everyone happy and avoid confrontation. But clearly that is not the way to go!

You've done the right thing so far and I hope the collective wisdom on this thread will give you confidence in your future actionsThanks

FirstTimeToddlerMum · 17/09/2019 19:20

God I love this site sometimes . I love that people come on here and spend their time advising complete strangers on really shitty situations.

Hope this will come to an end for you soon OP , sounds really stressful Thanks

ThatCurlyGirl · 17/09/2019 19:38

I agree it's been a breath of fresh air to see everyone rally around OP after being disillusioned with a few threads this week!

Flowers!

Flowers for everyone!

ThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanks

celebrityskin · 17/09/2019 19:42

Well done OP! Good luck tomorrow xx

Mousetolioness · 17/09/2019 19:55

Ditto - I too hope things go well tomorrow. Flowers

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 17/09/2019 19:59

God, I am so pissed off on your behalf. YOU'VE made it awkward?! What a nasty twat he is. Hope all goes well tomorrow.

mummabubs · 17/09/2019 20:42

Just wanted to say well done @Gratedcheeseontop. I've been in a similar situation in the past and just wanted to say you've done the right thing- for both of you. He now has it absolutely crystal clear that he needs to back off and (although not pleasant for you) you've done a really good job of asserting yourself. Hopefully management will be supportive, see how this has affected you and is an unacceptable position for him to have put you in. As others have said, you haven't made things awkward, he did when he willingly chose to repeatedly ignore your wishes to be left alone. You may even have given him food for thought so the next time he tries coming onto someone who isn't interested he may think twice about continuing to pursue them.

Italiangreyhound · 17/09/2019 21:09

Thanks Thanks Thanks OP

Cherrysoup · 17/09/2019 21:27

Fabulous advice from @NameChange84 and excellent actions from @Gratedcheeseontop. If he raises his stupid fucking head again, go straight to the managers and say that you’ll have to take it further. The bloke’s deluded.

AngelaScandal · 17/09/2019 21:51

May his knob develop rot and fall off, the odious little shit.

Gratedcheeseontop · 17/09/2019 23:46

I’ve felt so supported by all of you lovely, amazing, take-no-shit women throughout this. The advice I’ve been given is priceless, I know that if I hadn’t posted here I would have backed down in fear of upsetting people. This has been a huge learning curve for me, and i now know how to deal with these types of creeps men, and what can potentially happen if I’m too soft!

I’ll keep you all in the loop and let you know what’s said between manager and I tomorrow, but just thought I’d pop on to say a huge thank you to everyone that’s taken the time to give me brilliant advice and bucket loads of support. FlowersFlowersFlowersFlowers

OP posts:
Italiangreyhound · 18/09/2019 00:02

Gratedcheeseontop glad you are feeling more empowered.

Thanks

Just remember this is not your fault, you are not responsible for his actions. BUT it's normal to try and be polite/deflect/make excuses for the man's stupid behavior etc!

I once bought a ring and pretended to be married to get away from unwanted male attention. I was so angry I needed to do that but I was in a foreign country and it seemed like a good idea. This man is crazy, it's not about your partner etc, even if you were single you would not be interested. And it is OK to not be interested in anyone. Your choice.

We are all invested in your story, so please do keep us posted. Thanks

Italiangreyhound · 18/09/2019 00:04

It's normal to make excuses for his behavior etc, but it's not right. I mean. You don't need to down play anything or pretend you think he just means friendship or pretend you led him on in any way, you did not. It is not your fault at all. Thanks

Jesaminecollins · 18/09/2019 05:21

You would think sexual harrassment is a thing of the past but no! I went around to my friends to borrow something but she wasn't in and her bloody husband decided to try it on with me by saying "I haven't seen you for ages give me a big hug Jessy" which he did while patting me on the bum! Arsehole!

BrightYellowDaffodil · 18/09/2019 06:24

Gonyou, @Gratedcheeseontop!