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To Tell Friend To Feed Her Child Properly

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ChilledBee · 15/09/2019 18:04

I have a friend with a four year old son. He's very small for his age and her HV and GP have made suggestions about how to change this. She isn't vegan but eats meat seldom and only shops organic and local. She makes these dishes which are foreign type stews with things like aubergine and squash (I eat/cook these things too) and will sprinkle some feta or another cheese on top. Or something with spinach and lentils. It isn't awful but for an acquired taste. My DH says it Italy seems like a side dish and he is waiting for the joint of slow cooked meat and some potatoes to accompany it. Any meat is organic/free range butcher ordered so very expensive and rarely eaten. She is very much into ethical shopping/farming/eating.

The trouble is, when I see the vegetables,they are often old (she gets a lot of home grown produce from her own allotment or that of friends) so I imagine the nutrients are depleted. Her son barely eats any of the food she gives him and she does worry about that because he's not only small but has some vitamin deficiencies too. But she thinks it has something else going on rather then he just doesn't like the food she makes.

Last week, she had to unfortunately stay in hospital for several days (10) with her mother who was touch and go. Her son stayed with me and even though it was something completely unfamiliar, he settled in well. She gave no dietary instructions so I just fed him like I do my own kids (3,3 and 1) on home cooked meals cooked from scratch (spaghetti bolognese,shepherds pie, burgers and chips) and he wolfed it down. In fact, the first day he came he had seconds and ice cream and jelly afterwards (pudding isn't routine in our house). I am embarrassed to say that I weighed him that night and the day before he went home. He gained 5lbs! My DH felt that I was out of order weighing him but I have to say that seeing him eat like that made me want to prove something I'd suspected all along.

I want to tell her that her son badly needs to eat food he likes and is healthy for a child. She often refers to childhood obesity but I think she underestimates the amount of fat and carbs a growing child needs. I know she feels quite isolated by her HV and GP who have sort of threatened her with SS (she says) but won't refer her for the medical investigations she wants. Her sister had 'failure to thrive' and was later found to have cerebral palsy which contributed to this but it isn't a hereditary condition which could explain her son's small stature. My DH doesn't think she is mentally stable. I think she is precious at best.

Would you say something?

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StockTakeFucks · 16/09/2019 16:32

She is willing to expand the food a bit and eat round mine more often to see if it just the fact that my kids are here so he copies them.

That's a great start. Once those changes are in place and he eats round yours more often if he's still not gaining then she can look at medical tests. The GP and dietician will be more likely to listen too once they see she has made changes to his diet.

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Mxyzptlk · 16/09/2019 17:55

It's great that the child himself said he liked your food.

Maybe she'd be open to making veg stews that are less spicy, or not spicy at all? Including potato or wholewheat pasta. And putting extra seasoning on her own helping.

The mum is clearly not unreasonably obsessed with providing one type of food but seems to have little idea of what else to give her son.

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hazeyjane · 16/09/2019 18:47

Well that turned around quickly!

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bananasaidso · 17/09/2019 12:46

Those who are saying kids eat every thing and if you wean them on food you are eating then thy will eat happily never had a picky eater who also is very stubborn. Mine was like that when little. I tried to introduce all sorts of healthy food and what we ate. But she would smell the food and then leave it. She would rather go hungry than eat that. I suspect she is a super taster and her taste buds are like mine as I too can't eat certain foods because my taste buds are very very sensitive. Our lives have become much easier since we have started giving her homemade healthier versions of the food she likes and yes that includes speg bol, burgers and shepherds pie. You can hide a lot of vegetables in speg bol and shepherds pie and make it less salty if you want to. Kids need carbs, full fat and protein for their growing mind and body. Their needs are different to adults.

So OP's friend might be making healthy food but it's of no use if the kid doesn't like it. And for those who say cumin is not spicy, then you should also know that not many people like the taste of cumin. I have a family member who can't eat any food with cumin in it as they can tell it's in it even if it's hidden. OP is right, her friends needs to give her child food that they will eat and introduce more complex flavours slowly. Main priority is to get the child to eat.

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bananasaidso · 17/09/2019 13:10

Also to someone said that it's rude of kids to tell parents that they don't like the food. Thing is the parents were also considerate of their kids and wouldn't make something that they knew kids wont eat. My parents liked vegetables but we didn't and we only started getting a taste for them when we got older. They never forced used to eat them. My mum would also make something that would cater to every one. So if she made one dish that kids wont eat then the other dish would be something that we can eat.

I do feel bad for the kid when he said that OPs food didn't make his bum hurt. As an asian we make lots of spicy food. We put yogurt in our food for kids or take some out for kids before putting spices in it. Even then as an adult I have had problems with ulcers and had to go spice free for a while.

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Mxyzptlk · 17/09/2019 14:40

I do feel bad for the kid when he said that OPs food didn't make his bum hurt.
As an asian we make lots of spicy food. We put yogurt in our food for kids or take some out for kids before putting spices in it. Even then as an adult I have had problems with ulcers and had to go spice free for a while.

That's interesting to know about, and I hope it's helpful to the OP.

You could say to your friend that you read that somewhere, OP, which would be true.

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mathanxiety · 17/09/2019 20:33

It seems very clear to me that this woman needs SS intervention to ensure compliance with the GP's advice.

Her son has a diagnosis of anemia and seriously curtailed growth but she still thinks a diet that is both low in iron and one her son won't eat isn't the problem.

She is happily contemplating the most invasive forms of investigation for her son instead of dropping her (clearly) ill informed principles.

Does she want to be proved right? To end up with a diagnosis of some issue so she can say Hah! Told ya! to the doctor? Is she so firm in her convictions (i.e. orthorexic) that she won't try the course of action that would be least painful and traumatic for her own child? What mother would prefer to see even a blood test taken instead of making a few meals of simple spag bol or swedish meatballs or shepherds pie for her child?

On top of all this, there is a dietician suggesting that the food refusal at home is a behavioural issue. Food behavioural issues do not happen in a vacuum.

Something is awry in the relationship between mother and child.

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ChilledBee · 20/09/2019 17:41

Okay so things are going in the right direction. He's definitely a fan of firmer foods.

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CandyLeBonBon · 20/09/2019 20:09

This is all good op - I'm glad things are looking up!

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hazeyjane · 20/09/2019 20:33

Well that seemed remarkably easy to sort out!

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AtomicSquirrel3 · 21/09/2019 08:49

Soooooo many people missing the point. She could make the best food in the world, if he doesn't like it he isn't going to eat it. She needs to be adapting the food she's offering, giving him a wide range of food (including the stuff he obviously likes, spag bol, etc). The mother needs to open her eyes and start putting her son first . His vitamin deficiencies have the potential to make him feel very ill which could affect his learning at school and his general wellbeing. Her doctor and health visitor have spoken to her about this already, she needs to start listening.

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Fresta · 21/09/2019 09:41

Don't be ridiculous. Spaghetti bolognese isn't an essential part of anyone's diet. Kids aren't born with a set menu programmed in that the parent has to unlock. As long as they have have right balance of carbs, fat and protein provided they they won't starve. Kids get accustomed to the tastes they are weaned on and grow up on. Do you think children in growing up in the wilds of Africa and similar places fail to thrive because they don't like their food and really their parents are neglecting them if they don't feed them some spaghetti or chicken nuggets right now!

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StockTakeFucks · 21/09/2019 11:06

@Fresta the thread moved on,not that your argument hasn't been mentioned about a dozen times anyways.

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ChilledBee · 21/09/2019 11:39

Yes I think we concluded that intake of food is the most important thing when it comes to diet.

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Apolloanddaphne · 21/09/2019 12:37

I'm glad your friend is taking your advice on board.

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