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AIBU to feel so hurt?

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Lincolnfield · 10/09/2019 15:38

My son has been with his partner for about fifteen years and I honestly don't know what, if anything, I've said or done wrong to her. She is a high flyer in her profession and, at the beginning of this year, she was appointed to an incredibly senior post. I was truthfully very pleased for her and very proud as well. Like my son, she comes from a working class background and has had to really graft to get to where she is.

I sent her a congratulations card and bought a silver paperweight for her which I had engraved with the date and her new post. Then, a couple of weeks later when she came over with my son I said to her how proud I was of her. Her reply was, 'Oh, I've had enough arse licking about it.' I was NOT arse licking! I was simply expressing acknowledgement of her achievements.

There was a big event in London for her appointment and her father, his girlfriend and her brother attended (her parents are divorced and the whole relationship in her family is a bit strange) and my husband and I were invited, which was nice. She paid everything for her father, his girlfriend and brother - their rail travel, hotel, meals in London. I was a bit apalled that they were so ready to accept it without even offering to pay for a meal for her and my son. In fairness, she offered to pay for us but I absolutely refused. I am quite proud and I paid for us. I told my son I wasn't going to scrounge off them even though they're a lot better off than us. It's just not my way.

My husband and I very rarely visit them because we don't want to intrude in their lives at all and to be honest, I always feel that she really doesn't want to spend any time with me. About once a month my job takes me to the same city where my son works. If he's free he will meet me for lunch and it's lovely to have an hour with him and a bit of a catch up. A couple of months ago, I happened to be working on a Saturday so son and partner both met me and she was absolutely fine, chatting etc. and it was lovely to be with them both. It almost feels schizophrenic.

They're both forty this year, son in two weeks and his partner in November. She did phone and say it would be nice to go out for dinner with us and the rest of our family - I have two stepsons as well as my son and we have five grandchildren. She has been vegetarian for years but this year has decided to be vegan so I searched everywhere to find a nice restaurant with a vegan menu. I sent her a copy of a menu from a lovely country pub that we have visited before and she replied to say there was nothing on the menu that she would eat.

I did loads of research to find an alternative place and when they came over a few weeks ago I showed her both menus on the internet. 'I don't mind at all,' she said, ' as long as they do vegan I'll be fine.'

They don't have any children but they had a lovely little rescue dog which they both doted on. Sadly, she had to be put to sleep a few months ago because she was very old and poorly and naturally they were both gutted. I completely understand how they feel because all my adult life I've had dogs. They are a big part of mine and my husband's lives and for the last thirty odd years we've always had three retrievers at a time - flat coats and goldens. My current golden is fourteen and getting very creaky. They came over a few weeks ago and I commented on my old dog. She snapped at me and said 'my dog didn't have the chance to get to that age.' Actually she doesn't really know how old their dog was because being a rescue, there was a lot of uncertainty about how old she actually was - and why does it matter? If my dog is older, then am I supposed to feel bad about it?

I've tried so hard to be friendly with her for my son's sake as much as anything, but if I text her for any reason at all she never replies. I texted her this week asking for some advice on a professional matter and she didn't reply which frankly, I thought was just rude. I very rarely phone her but if I do she always ignores my calls and I can tell she has hit the ignore button on her phone because it rings out and then stops.

I also lost one of my dogs at the end of last year but my boy was only five years old. He died in a freak accident when a tennis ball was wedged in his throat and it killed him. Seriously, it was the most traumatic experiences I've ever had. I was out on my own with my dogs and I couldn't save him. He died at my feet. One of the vet nurses at our vets sent me a lovely little card with some sweet words in. I came across her card this week in my drawer and, thinking son's partner would like it, I put the same words on her facebook page explaning who had sent it to me.

My son rang me this morning to tell me off and said I'd really upset her and I shouldn't have posted on her facebook page. He said, 'after all, it's still raw.' I'm sure it is but I thought the words would be a bit of comfort.

I love my son very much. We have always had a close and easy relationship. His dad died many years ago and I was on my own with him until he was four and I met my husband who is his stepfather and thankfully he has brought him up as his own. I don't say anything about the way his partner acts towards me because I always take the view that as long as they have a good relationship then it doesn't really matter if she doesn't like me but I can't help feeling hurt.

It's so weird. When she's there in my company with my son she is pretty okay except for her odd barbed comment - aka the one about arse licking - but when I do something in all innocence, like my comment on her facebook page I'm in trouble and the rest of the time she blanks me.

I just feel as though I'm walking on eggshells all the time with her and everything I do or say is wrong.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 10/09/2019 19:38

Sounds like she had a tough time growing up so maybe a happy family unit is alien to her. Just a thought.

justasking111 · 10/09/2019 19:39

They are not married so perhaps she feels family is just not that important.

HillRunner · 10/09/2019 19:53

You think that a woman who regularly gives her father money and paid for her father to attend a work promotion event "feels that family is just not that important"?!? Shock

AnneLovesGilbert · 10/09/2019 20:01

They are not married so perhaps she feels family is just not that important.

Say what now?

HillRunner · 10/09/2019 20:08

Annelovesgilbert - OBVIOUSLY the reason they are not married is because the gf is a stone cold bitch who cares nothing for family ties. I mean, what other explanation is there?

BuildBuildings · 10/09/2019 20:10

Please please please do not use the word schizophrenic to describe unusual or changing behaviour. It isn't what schizophrenia is. It's offensive to people with mental health issues.

DampInTheLakes · 10/09/2019 20:13

I actually feel quite bad for you OP. A lot of us will have Dil's in the future and it's this kind of crossed-wires and potential personality clash situation that fills me with dread. You clearly want to do right by your son and are making an effort to please and be amenable. I don't think you've done anything wrong tbh and if anything I think you're on the receiving end of more rudeness than is ok. For the sake of your own peace of mind I'd maybe back off, and just let your son know that you're always there if she ever needs anything. Maybe she isn't used to a mother/daughter relationship and it's a) bringing up deep-seated resentments or b) she just genuinely doesn't know how to relate. I think she's being unreasonable about the Facebook post, no matter how much something like that had upset me, I'd understand the intention was coming from a good place. As for not responding to texts, that really is rude, but I'd take it as a hint. I'm sorry you're in this situation and unfortunately there's nothing you can do other than change how you react to and feel about the brush offs etc.

BuildBuildings · 10/09/2019 20:14

Sorry just rtft. I'm shocked you would use the description schizophrenic given your professional background and then defend your use of it!

madcatladyforever · 10/09/2019 20:18

She sounds appalling OP, I'd be walking on constant eggshells and the arse licking comment was above rude.
She sounds like bloody hard work.

Lincolnfield · 10/09/2019 20:40

BuildBuildings

Please please please do not use the word schizophrenic to describe unusual or changing behaviour. It isn't what schizophrenia is. It's offensive to people with mental health issues

You are absolutely right and I apologise.

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Aquafresca · 10/09/2019 21:06

Op you sound lovely. If someone is not appreciating your kindness and efforts.. I would say just it's time to take a step back. . No matter how nice or kind you are sometimes some people just don't get it or misunderstand niceness for something else. Be cordial and try not to think too hard. If you ever plan to meet up for dinner just let her choose the venue. Why go through the hassel if it's not worth it. It's nice that you and your son are so close. Smile

Lincolnfield · 10/09/2019 21:11

Just to add context, she does have a very difficult relationship with her mother. There was a period a couple of years ago when she'd refused to have anything to do with her mum for months. I've no idea why. Her mum turned up on their doorstep in floods of tears one day asking to see her and she went upstairs and refused to come down. She sent my son to get her mum to leave. They seem to have patched it up now but she only sees her mum infrequently.

When she got her appointment this year, she didn't ask her mother to go and said she couldn't have her parents in the same room, so her dad went and took his girlfriend. She has always been quite close to her Dad although that relationship seems a bit more strained these days and she can't stand his girlfriend and keeps saying she has a drink problem. I have no idea if that's true.

Her brother is morbidly obese and I know she worries about him. He is very lonely with few friends so he tends to lean on her and my son quite a lot.

Maybe some of this affects how she sees me as well? I guess she can't be blamed for that.

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justasking111 · 10/09/2019 21:18

Ahh well the mother sounds so difficult, her family experience is not a positive one so I can understand her

doublebarrellednurse · 10/09/2019 21:42

You making comments like "it's schizophrenic" would put most educated people off. It's ignorant and just outrightly inaccurate (schizophrenic people don't have "split" personalities).

My mother in law makes similar comments about all kinds of things. I don't argue or correct her because it's pointless but it does change how I see her and how much time I want to stay in her company. She's not a bad person but in all honestly I wouldn't chose to spend time with people like that.

Lincolnfield · 10/09/2019 21:54

doublebarrellednurse

I meant the situation not the person and have already apologised. See above.

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UrsulaPandress · 10/09/2019 22:02

I’d still like to know the words about the dog ...

Isthisit22 · 10/09/2019 22:30

You sound ridiculously over invested in this. Dissecting her family and endlessly pondering why she doesn't like you.

She probably just doesn't want to have a close relationship and your failure to get the hint with her ignoring texts etc has prob pushed that over into a bit of irritation/dislike.

I don't dislike my MIL but I also don't text or ring her. My husband mainly takes the kids to visit while I work or get some very rare time to myself. I just don't feel the need to have a close relationship with her.

This is really not something to worry about. Have a relationship with your son and leave her be.

catinavan · 10/09/2019 22:48

So many intricate little details....obese brother, office filled with antiques, rescue dog...this has got to be one of those posts about someone famous

skybluee · 11/09/2019 00:09

Honestly, I'm sorry to say this but something about all of this just seems a bit odd. It's almost like criticism wrapped up as 'concern' - all the mention of the drinking problems, the caravan, obese brother, the family relationships being 'strange', them being scroungers, being appalled they accepted the money, it's like they're all little digs at things that are wrong. You searched everywhere for the menus, it's like the way it's written, like you're annoyed about it, there's some kind of underlying resentment or annoyance or that she's done something wrong. I don't understand how her saying she didn't mind is an issue. You sound annoyed about it somehow.

What comment did you make about your old dog?

Regarding all of the facebook stuff, it just seems like you're not concerned at all that it upset her, just focussing on how you felt you were told off instead of simply apologising? Do you see what I mean? Instead of being concerned you had upset her your focus is just you feel affronted by her daring to be upset, I know I'd find it very very difficult if someone posted something like that so publicly and it could really upset me, depending on when it was read.

It sounds like you want a relationship with her so I'd back off a bit, she obviously wants one with you as for example she suggested it would be nice to go out for a meal for their birthdays and so on, so she obviously wants to spend time with you. I hope it all works out.

One thing I do want to say is there seems to be a lot of talk about how caring and nuturing you are but if the things you're doing are not perceived like that by the other person, then in fact those things just aren't so, maybe think about whether it would be nice FOR HER rather than what you would find nice because it comes across like you're finding her ungrateful for being upset etc.

Oakandlove · 11/09/2019 01:09

I'd stop thinking about her OP. You love your son. Meet him, contact him and forget the extra with her. I didn't click with my partners parents when we first met but because they are his and he loves them, I make an effort and as years have passed it's become easy to be with them, like them and ignore idiosyncrasies because they are his, they raised him and they raised him into someone I love.

I know some MIL threads are different on here and they are mind-boggling as to what goes on. She could be kinder maybe but she is not going to be. Just because someone has an extremely senior post/money/worthy of their direct reports in their JOB does not mean they are any better than you. The same human manners, emotions and respect are required of each of us. Leave her to it and use your energy to see your son instead.

Paperplain · 11/09/2019 02:11

Perhaps she felt you asking her opinion about a professional matter was rude?

fargo123 · 11/09/2019 07:11

Her arse licking comment was beyond rude.

Lincolnfield · 11/09/2019 07:51

‘Sthere seems to be a lot of talk about how caring and nuturing you are’

Oh crikey! I mentioned that only ONCE in response to the person who suggested I’m a people pleaser and agreed saying my role - get that? My job - is one of caring and nurturing, which we people pleasers are drawn towards.

I described my son’s partner’s family relationships as a statement not a judgement but just to wonder if those difficulties impact on how she feels about me and why she blows hot and cold, which I confess I find difficult.

I have put my hands up that my post on her FB page was ill advised and with hindsight I wouldn’t have done it. Sadly I can’t undo my mistake although I have apologised profusely to both my son and to her by text - because I know she won’t answer a phone call.

Someone asked what I did put on Facebook and it was basically a little saying as though written by her dog simply saying, thank you for the wonderful life you gave me. Don’t be sad, when you look up to the stars I’ll be looking down on you with love.

Okay, a bit slushy but I honestly thought a nice sentiment.

I’m struggling to keep my head up altogether just now and once again putting my foot in it with son’s partner just made me feel so bad yesterday. I don’t set out to hurt her. My beloved husband has early stage dementia which is getting worse and my sister is terminally ill, plus I’m doing my best to be completely professional on the days when I’m working, so I suspect I’m guilty of overreacting as well.

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sonjadog · 11/09/2019 08:13

It doesn't sound like she is being hot and cold tbh. It sounds more like she is being pleasant but not desirous of a closer relationship, while you are taking her being pleasant as a sign that you are becoming friends, so when she doesn't follow that up you get hurt. I think you should try to accept that you aren't friends and aren't going to be friends. The more you push the closeness, the more she is going to back off.

Jaxhog · 11/09/2019 12:28

This all seems quite intense, I'd be backing away too. I just don't think she wants the same type of relationship as you do but is trying to make an effort.

This struck me too. You're probably both very nice people, but with different expectations of your relationship. It's probably best to focus on meeting with your son mostly and leave your DiL to make contact with you. But let your son know that you would welcome contact as and when she wants it. Don't drop her from facebook etc., but don't make direct contact either. She'll contact you if she wants to.

I'd also suggest accepting graciously if your son and DiL offer to pay for anything in the future. It may dent your pride, but they could also take offence if you refuse.

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