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AIBU to feel so hurt?

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Lincolnfield · 10/09/2019 15:38

My son has been with his partner for about fifteen years and I honestly don't know what, if anything, I've said or done wrong to her. She is a high flyer in her profession and, at the beginning of this year, she was appointed to an incredibly senior post. I was truthfully very pleased for her and very proud as well. Like my son, she comes from a working class background and has had to really graft to get to where she is.

I sent her a congratulations card and bought a silver paperweight for her which I had engraved with the date and her new post. Then, a couple of weeks later when she came over with my son I said to her how proud I was of her. Her reply was, 'Oh, I've had enough arse licking about it.' I was NOT arse licking! I was simply expressing acknowledgement of her achievements.

There was a big event in London for her appointment and her father, his girlfriend and her brother attended (her parents are divorced and the whole relationship in her family is a bit strange) and my husband and I were invited, which was nice. She paid everything for her father, his girlfriend and brother - their rail travel, hotel, meals in London. I was a bit apalled that they were so ready to accept it without even offering to pay for a meal for her and my son. In fairness, she offered to pay for us but I absolutely refused. I am quite proud and I paid for us. I told my son I wasn't going to scrounge off them even though they're a lot better off than us. It's just not my way.

My husband and I very rarely visit them because we don't want to intrude in their lives at all and to be honest, I always feel that she really doesn't want to spend any time with me. About once a month my job takes me to the same city where my son works. If he's free he will meet me for lunch and it's lovely to have an hour with him and a bit of a catch up. A couple of months ago, I happened to be working on a Saturday so son and partner both met me and she was absolutely fine, chatting etc. and it was lovely to be with them both. It almost feels schizophrenic.

They're both forty this year, son in two weeks and his partner in November. She did phone and say it would be nice to go out for dinner with us and the rest of our family - I have two stepsons as well as my son and we have five grandchildren. She has been vegetarian for years but this year has decided to be vegan so I searched everywhere to find a nice restaurant with a vegan menu. I sent her a copy of a menu from a lovely country pub that we have visited before and she replied to say there was nothing on the menu that she would eat.

I did loads of research to find an alternative place and when they came over a few weeks ago I showed her both menus on the internet. 'I don't mind at all,' she said, ' as long as they do vegan I'll be fine.'

They don't have any children but they had a lovely little rescue dog which they both doted on. Sadly, she had to be put to sleep a few months ago because she was very old and poorly and naturally they were both gutted. I completely understand how they feel because all my adult life I've had dogs. They are a big part of mine and my husband's lives and for the last thirty odd years we've always had three retrievers at a time - flat coats and goldens. My current golden is fourteen and getting very creaky. They came over a few weeks ago and I commented on my old dog. She snapped at me and said 'my dog didn't have the chance to get to that age.' Actually she doesn't really know how old their dog was because being a rescue, there was a lot of uncertainty about how old she actually was - and why does it matter? If my dog is older, then am I supposed to feel bad about it?

I've tried so hard to be friendly with her for my son's sake as much as anything, but if I text her for any reason at all she never replies. I texted her this week asking for some advice on a professional matter and she didn't reply which frankly, I thought was just rude. I very rarely phone her but if I do she always ignores my calls and I can tell she has hit the ignore button on her phone because it rings out and then stops.

I also lost one of my dogs at the end of last year but my boy was only five years old. He died in a freak accident when a tennis ball was wedged in his throat and it killed him. Seriously, it was the most traumatic experiences I've ever had. I was out on my own with my dogs and I couldn't save him. He died at my feet. One of the vet nurses at our vets sent me a lovely little card with some sweet words in. I came across her card this week in my drawer and, thinking son's partner would like it, I put the same words on her facebook page explaning who had sent it to me.

My son rang me this morning to tell me off and said I'd really upset her and I shouldn't have posted on her facebook page. He said, 'after all, it's still raw.' I'm sure it is but I thought the words would be a bit of comfort.

I love my son very much. We have always had a close and easy relationship. His dad died many years ago and I was on my own with him until he was four and I met my husband who is his stepfather and thankfully he has brought him up as his own. I don't say anything about the way his partner acts towards me because I always take the view that as long as they have a good relationship then it doesn't really matter if she doesn't like me but I can't help feeling hurt.

It's so weird. When she's there in my company with my son she is pretty okay except for her odd barbed comment - aka the one about arse licking - but when I do something in all innocence, like my comment on her facebook page I'm in trouble and the rest of the time she blanks me.

I just feel as though I'm walking on eggshells all the time with her and everything I do or say is wrong.

OP posts:
criticaldarling · 10/09/2019 17:11

I think this could be a simple misunderstanding. Her being a bit dry and you sensitive, not getting each other.

I'd speak to your son if you can.

mistermagpie · 10/09/2019 17:13

Your reaction to the thing about her paying for her family is weird. You said yourself she is from a working class background and has done well for herself - maybe it makes her really happy to treat her less well-off family? And what's it got to do with you if they accept her generosity? I'm sure they have done plenty for her in the past. You telling your son you thought they were scrounging may well have been reported back to her - my DH would have told me something like that.

Other than that, and the I'll-judged Facebook thing which you now accept was a bit inappropriate, the rest sounds like a lot of fuss over nothing.

AndwhenyougetthereFoffsomemore · 10/09/2019 17:13

Just seen your message - so you told your son that you thought her family were scroungers?!! Did you not think he'd tell her???! Yikes, very rude imo to bad-mouth someone's family to their partner behind their back. I would not be impressed if dh and his mum were discussing my family together. They might get away with it if I was there and I started it so to speak, but not behind my back!!

PurpleDaisies · 10/09/2019 17:15

My husbands’ parents pay for us on a lot of family holidays. We would t be able to go with them if not. They always offer, we never ask. Are we “scroungers”?

I really don’t like your attitude there.

WhatTiggersDoBest · 10/09/2019 17:17

You sound a lot like my MIL.
In person I try to be gracious but I won't reply to texts or calls (or the endless parade of cards for every non-event in our lives) because she sends weird passive-aggressive ones that I don't know how to answer and honestly I think it's best if DH deals with her because he's less likely to snap and say something rude to her. She means well but she's OTT and can't accept her 40 year old son is an adult, and I just don't have experience dealing with people like that over the long-term so I avoid her because I want to keep the peace. We moved to Asia and she still didn't get the hint to back off.

Cittadina · 10/09/2019 17:21

In the nicest possible way - I am into modern design, clean lines, and absolutely dislike things that do not have a function - if/when somebody buys me things like silver paperweights with dates a part of me dies a little! Did you ask your DS what she would have liked to receive?

Gift aside, it looks like you and you DIL communicate really differently, but to me it also seems that you may want to take control of the relationship by not allowing them to pay for you, etc. I feel the not allowing them to treat you to the trip was a way for you to gain control on the situation, to be still the parent. Personally I think it was wrong of you, especially considering how you verbalised it.

As other posters have pointed out, there is something passive aggressive about your post; but maybe it's just the way you write - either way my suggestion (and mind you I am only a random from th'interweb) would be to let go the relationship with your DIL and concentrate on your DS. Let her be.

thecatinthetwat · 10/09/2019 17:23

I think you might be missing the ball a bit. She may well be quite different to you, but perhaps you are treating her ‘as you would like to be treated’ rather than as she would like to be treated.

Step back and ask yourself- not whether you would like this, but whether she would. Fb comment is a perfect example.

You need to allow her to do things differently, her family too. Without being labelled as awful, rude or scrounges even.

ConfCall · 10/09/2019 17:31

You sound fab but a tad try-hard. I think that if you step back a little, you’ll end up having a pleasant, productive relationship.

If they offer you and your husband something nice in future, accept graciously. They naturally want their families to share in their good fortune! It’s a credit to them (and the way they were raised, of course 😉 ) that they’re generous.

No more posts on her Facebook wall. It can be annoying and as a pp said, opens up a flurry of tiresome posts from other people.

Rachelle11 · 10/09/2019 17:32

Your son had words with you. This is about him, not her. You are likely embarrassed and want to blame her instead. It sounds like you are missing the mark and it would be best to step back. No texts, phone calls. That's not the kind of relationship she wants. She's nice to you in person and that is great.
I think you are trying your best, but she doesn't have time and/or isn't interested for whatever reason.

Topseyt · 10/09/2019 17:32

I would just say back off a little. It sounds as though you communicate very differently and perhaps have much less in common than you seem to think. She may feel rather bombarded by the gifts, messages and attention from you and not know how to react most of the time. Added to that, you seem (even if unintentionally) to have implied that her family are scroungers. They aren't necessarily, they are just different from you.

The public status on Facebook about the death of her dog may have been well intentioned, but it was not your place to make it.

Leave her alone for a bit.

DoctorAllcome · 10/09/2019 17:33

Honestly to me the DIL sounds like hard work and that she has a constant chip the size of a tree on her shoulder.
I’d just back away and not engage with her. You’ve tried your best to be friendly and it’s back-fired.

Getabloominmoveon · 10/09/2019 17:43

She may be a bit brusque but she also sounds generous and straightforward. Try to understand her world - she’s a high flyer so is probably extremely busy, businesslike and tbh, she’s not going to be interested in the same things as you or respond in the same way. Why not just accept her for who she is.

AllOuttaIdeas · 10/09/2019 17:45

Stop trying so hard, accept that you are different, and relax around her. Don't send unnecessary gifts, don't bring up things that trigger her.

She may feel rather bombarded by the gifts, messages and attention from you and not know how to react most of the time.

^These two comments, in spades. You have totally different relationship styles - hers is low key, relaxed, laid-back. Yours is most definitely not. As others have said, back-off, stop trying so hard and chill out.

I think you see her (or would like to see her) as something much more important than she sees you. You would like a mother-daughter style relationship, whilst to her, you're just the mother of her partner, whom she has to see and be nice to every now and again.

You've said yourself that she has a big, busy job - I doubt she even gives much headspace to your relationship, whereas you're pondering over every little thing she says and does.

Also this too...

If somebody buys me things like silver paperweights with dates a part of me dies a little

I would hate it and find it soo cringey (and the doggie FB post, sorry!). I know you were trying to be nice, but it's just not the way I, my family or my friends do things. We're much more 'stiff upper lip/just get on with it/don't make a fuss' types - and would find it way OTT. Have you ever considered that's part of the reason she doesn't want to acknowledge things like that?

Jayaywhynot · 10/09/2019 17:47

"You can't control other people's behaviour, but you can conrol your responses to it" This is so true. We all know when someone doesn't like us but you can't change that despite trying, unfair when you haven't done anything. Just be yourself, continue contact with your son, discontinue contact with her, unless its urgent, birthday etc. Stop trying so hard and eventually it may hurt less. Youve tried your best, time to step back for your own sake Flowers

Supersimkin · 10/09/2019 17:48

She's your DS' current girlfriend, not your long-lost soulmate.

Polite chat and the odd mildly enjoyable outing is as much as you can expect.

You're too invested and she sounds too touchy to get any further. Focus on someone else.

Cohle · 10/09/2019 17:48

I think you've put your foot in it on a couple of occasions. You basically called her family scroungers and you reminded her out of the blue about the death of her dog.

I therefore think you should be a little more forgiving of the couple of occasions where she's maybe made similar gaffes that have hurt your feelings.

Accountant222 · 10/09/2019 17:56

I'd back off if I was you, you sound lovely incidentally. My DIL hates me, I'm pretty low contact with the pair of them.

UmmH · 10/09/2019 17:57

OP said her son made the scrounging comment, not her! I would have found the 'arse-licking' remark very rude, and after that I would have been disinclined to allow her to pay for anything for me.

Other than that, I think the advice most are giving is correct. You are different people and you cannot force a close relationship with her.

Zuma76 · 10/09/2019 17:57

I think as a pp said that it may just be that you want different things. She is pleasant when she sees you but is not interested in being your friend. My MIL was always texting me and it irritated me because I’m not interested in a friendship and rightly or wrongly, I see it as my DH role to communicate with her and I keep in touch with my parents. I don’t really do Facebook but I’d hate it if my MIL tried to ‘friend’ me and write publicly on my page. You sound lovely but I think you need to take the hint and enjoy the relationship you have not want to have.

UmmH · 10/09/2019 17:58

I'd have liked a silver paper weight though Wink

HillRunner · 10/09/2019 18:02

The thing that really stood out to me is that you obviously don't think much of her family - there were a couple of digs at them in what you wrote. Is that the case? Because if so she will have picked up on it.

eladen · 10/09/2019 18:03

I don't get it. You say you don't visit much because you don't want to intrude then you post on Facebook about her dead dog and send her a paperweight engraved with the date of a promotion.

Just the paperweight wouldn't have been so bad, but getting it engraved? Why?!

It's weird. Who commemorates the date of a promotion? Is that a thing?

Oh and there are other ways to be needy than stalking them. Also perfectly possible to be a professional woman and needy.

justasking111 · 10/09/2019 18:04

I grew closer to my DIL`s when they had babies. Before that they were high flying business women with such busy lives. Afterwards we bonded as mums. Looking back I had such a busy life as did OH we probably neglected our own parents to some extent.

Each2TheirOwn · 10/09/2019 18:06

The 'arse licking' comment would have really pissed me off and the fact that she ignores your texts when you have contacted her with a specific question about something is just rude.

I don't think she necessarily dislikes you, she just doesn't seem to have any time for you. It's a shame, but not a lot you can do about it.

As PPs have said, remain polite and pleasant in her company, engage in friendly chitchat over coffee/dinner etc. But don't waste anymore of your time trying to get close to her, you'll only continue to feel hurt when she inevitably rejects your efforts.

She does sound busy, however, that's no excuse for bad manners in my book. Continue to enjoy the close relationship you have with your son, that doesn't need to change.

ShirleyPhallus · 10/09/2019 18:08

when somebody buys me things like silver paperweights with dates a part of me dies a little!

Agreed, this falls squarely in to the “absolute tat” category and I’d want to chuck it in the bin but not really know what to do with it