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To think Boris would win a general election

295 replies

HoneyIgrewthekids · 05/09/2019 14:13

Well that really, Im a big remainer but I cant help but feel that at an election Bojo would win and win big. Its depressing and I cant see how anyone could vote for him but I see him winning a majority at the polls especially since the remain vote is split.

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TheBigBallOfOil · 05/09/2019 17:08

As a conservative and remainer I will still vote for Boris, because the alternative is, unbelievably, worse.
And I bet there are more of me out there than you think.
Labour needs to ditch Corbyn and move to the centre, but the rot has gone too deep. Shame.

CleverLoginName · 05/09/2019 17:10

I hope he would win. Brexit aside I think he could be a great PM. Just a shame he will probably go down in history as the shortest serving PM because of Brexit

The 'rebel alliance' doesn't bear thinking about.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 05/09/2019 17:11

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Manontry · 05/09/2019 17:11

I agree he would have been a good PM. Shame really.

MerryChristmasHarry · 05/09/2019 17:12

By Labour heartlands you presumably mean Leave supporting areas. Love the way the northern Remain voting cities get conveniently left out of this narrative. As if Manchester isn't Labour heartland territory.

Manontry · 05/09/2019 17:12

I agree the rebel alliance are on a hiding to nothing.

If they scupper it all then Farage and his awful crew will be in by xmas.

ghostyslovesheets · 05/09/2019 17:13

Exactly Alsohuman

Labour want an election but NOT as a way of forcing through no deal Brexit - stop no deal, extend the leave date THEN have an election and allow the other parties to sort out the mess the Tory's have got the UK into.

Stop reading the tory press narrative - also stop saying 'Boris will win' - BJ isn't standing in every seat - The Conservative Party are - maybe read what they stand for and their manifesto - we don't vote for presidents in the UK!

Bahlindah · 05/09/2019 17:15

I'm not sure what makes him a potentially good PM.

I don't think enough has been made of the government accidentally-on-purpose failing to provide tellers to count the No votes against the Kinnock amendment yesterday.

An absolutely disgusting abuse of power more suited to a banana republic than a democracy. I don't see how someone can be a good PM if they won't even uphold basic democratic principles.

He is probably the one thing more dangerous to our country than Brexit itself.

Bahlindah · 05/09/2019 17:16

If they scupper it all then Farage and his awful crew will be in by xmas.
There's no real difference between the Brexit Party and the Torries these days, you only need see Tuesday's purge.

CleverLoginName · 05/09/2019 17:16

He is probably the one thing more dangerous to our country than Brexit itself.

No, Corbyn, Abbott and Macdonald are

Manontry · 05/09/2019 17:18

I will put money on the majority of voters being absolutely sick to the back teeth of Brexit and just wanting out. They'll vote for Boris. The rest will vote lib dem and Labour will be decimated.

Manontry · 05/09/2019 17:19

There's no real difference between the Brexit Party and the Torries these days, you only need see Tuesday's purge

If you truly think that you don't know a whole lot about politics.

greentheme23 · 05/09/2019 17:19

I'm thinking our political system is well and truly broken. It needs a radical overhaul because we're are going to be stuck in this loop for a long time otherwise!

Manontry · 05/09/2019 17:20

I don't think its broken. It's trying to sort out an incredibly difficult and sensitive issue.

There isn't one way of doing it.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/09/2019 17:21

I agree it's not easy to call, but suspect you could be right. Theresa was flaccid but Boris's ambition may mean he'll come out fighting - and if he does he'll fight dirty

Obviously any effective opposition would be wiping the floor with the whole lot of them, but sadly we don't have one (and won't until they get rid of Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum's influence)

Ringdonna · 05/09/2019 17:23

Hopefully he will and Tories remain in power for years to come.

FatherBuzzCagney · 05/09/2019 17:24

If they scupper it all then Farage and his awful crew will be in by xmas.

How would that happen? They have zero chance of an outright majority even in the worst case scenario (find me 326 constituencies they could win) and who would go into coalition with them - the Lib Dems? Labour? The only natural allies would be the Tories but they would never in a million years accept junior partner status. Farage could possibly get in as a junior partner in a Tory-led coalition, but it's hard to see where he would pick up seats except from the Tories, so the chances of the Tories and Farage having the numbers to form a coalition seem very small.

I'm not at all sure that Labour could form a coalition either (though of course my Corbyn Cult friends think that the sainted JC is going to sweep Labour to a massive majority through sheer force of his kindly personality and righteousness Grin Grin). But easily their best chance is an election after 31 Oct - as everyone knows.

FatherBuzzCagney · 05/09/2019 17:26

Hopefully he will and Tories remain in power for years to come.

He's not in power now, just in office.

TheBigBallOfOil · 05/09/2019 17:26

“Sheer force of his kindly personality” who’s going to equip him with one of those? His new best mates at farter ruck and partners??

Bahlindah · 05/09/2019 17:26

@Manontry

It's hardly my hot take. I find myself in agreement with this article from the Spectator (which is of course a generally pro-Tory publication) today.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/what-happened-to-the-conservative-party/

And it seems a fair chunk of the now-expelled Phillip Hammond's constituents are in agreement too...and Boris' own brother for that matter.

The Tory party we've grown up with might not be dead, but it's certainly on life-support.

PettyContractor · 05/09/2019 17:26

Haven't read the thread yet, but I've just nipped over to a betting odds site which tracks each parties probability of winning the most seats over the past year, and it was neck-and-neck until Boris became PM, with conservatives more often slightly ahead, but since then a humongous gap has opened up, apparently as of end of August Conservatives had 75% chance and Labour 20%.

Manontry · 05/09/2019 17:37

apparently as of end of August Conservatives had 75% chance and Labour 20%

Yup.

FatherBuzzCagney · 05/09/2019 17:40

You are obviously a heretic Oil and therefore a person whose opinion is of no consequence to the true believers. He may look like a self-righteous, charmless, dimwit posh boy who honestly believes that not having changed his mind about anything at all since the early 1970s is a virtue, but that's just because we don't understand his true genius and godlike beneficence.

Alsohuman · 05/09/2019 17:52

That Spectator article is excellent. It should be required reading.

Bahlindah · 05/09/2019 17:53

One thing that might be a problem for Boris is that, as evidenced by the last week in Parliament and today's hilariously bad speech to the police, he actually seems to be a surprisingly terrible public speaker (at least, in the role of PM). I think he seemed more effective when he wasn't under constant scrutiny.

He'll probably weasel out of any actual debates with Corbyn but it's not impossible that he'll suffer a similar fate to Theresa May before the last election. The more he is centre-stage, the more his shortcomings are laid bare.

I still think they'll likely end up the largest party but am more doubtful of a majority.