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AIBU?

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Prince Harry - AIBU?

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barniee · 03/09/2019 14:13

Prince Harry saying "we can all do better" has really irked me- aibu?! He has every want and need satisfied while the majority of us and trying to do right by the environment whilst making ends meet. He is becoming very sanctimonious!

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2019 12:42

Seeing as they do privately own a couple castles, as well as a few piles and large sums of inherited wealth, jewelry, land etc....why bother with the hassle of having to jump through all the hoops, put up with public intrusion, bad press etc etc? They could have a life of riley without all of that

I think we're supposed to believe they're driven by a profound sense of duty, and in the Queen's case it might even be vaguely true. The rest? Not so much

I can imagine Meghan's frustration marrying into what she might have thought was a position of considerable prestige and power only to discover it isn't really

So can I - and it's precisely why I keep saying it's regrettable (and largely Harry's fault IMO) that the relationship and marriage were so rushed. For all I know they might have gone ahead anyway, but a bit more time for reflection might have offered Meghan a better insight of what she was taking on

And sorry to hear you're poorly, but hope you have a full and speedy recovery Flowers

Boysey45 · 10/09/2019 13:15

PHs behaviour and gaffs make him come across like the Alan Partridge/Frank Spencer of the Royal Family. He seems to have little or no insight into how badly he comes across, that why I think he looks to be of very low intelligence. An average person would think to themselves I'm not behaving like this or saying this because it makes me look an utter clown.

sue51 · 10/09/2019 13:22

Boysey45 PH's gaffs are as nothing compared to Prince Andrew's.

BertrandRussell · 10/09/2019 13:35

“PHs behaviour and gaffs”

Gaffes? What’s he said?

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 10/09/2019 13:36

Thanks Puzzled Unfortunately it's a chronic condition where you can be ok for months but experience relapses. Dreading work this week. The flowers cheer me up though thanks!Smile

I think we're supposed to believe they're driven by a profound sense of duty, and in the Queen's case it might even be vaguely true. The rest? Not so much

It is a mystery. I can see the Queen believing she has been divinely appointed etc, and as head of CoE she has led a morally exemplary life I suppose...but does Charles etc believe in all that?

I'm not sure I see what they get out of it that they wouldn't have anyway (in terms of what matters) apart from bowing and scraping.

And with all the negative press why is Harry hanging onto it? He's sixth in line after all, and apparently has plenty of his own money. He seems to actually want the private life and has talked favourably about his cousin Zara's position.

Are they all just greedy? You can only live in one palace at a time.

Yes it is regrettable that they rushed into marriage so quickly. I know they were keen to start a family as quickly as possible due to M age but I'm not sure marrying into the RF isn't so big an undertaking that it shouldn't have merited more caution, as valid as those concerns would be in any context.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 10/09/2019 13:51

*any other

diddl · 10/09/2019 14:05

"Are they all just greedy?"

I think that they think that they are entitled to the lifestyle.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Frogmore House was where Philip would live should HM predecease him.

I mean that place for one guy!

He could easily fit in with any of his kids!

In fact the whole lot of them could probably all fit in just one of the places that the privately own!

I sometimes wonder if any of them have seen a 3 bed semi!

BertrandRussell · 10/09/2019 14:23

Meghan Is, as far as I know, the only member of the royal family who had ever had to earn her own living.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2019 14:25

Apparently so, diddl ... I especially like the lad sitting on the sofa with the lady in waiting, with his finger up his nose Wink

www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/the-queen-at-90-how-scotland-has-embraced-her-majesty-1-4109048

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 10/09/2019 14:28

In fact the whole lot of them could probably all fit in just one of the places that the privately own!

Yes there was that story about H and M originally wanting to settle in Windsor Castle and allegedly being refused by the Queen and some Royal expert or said he could understand the queens position because he could see that a few suites in WC might not be 'appropriate for a young family'

I meanConfused

How is a bog standard house appropriate then? It just struck me as massively over privileged absurdity, and the fact this statement was made so casually was almost mind numbing

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2019 14:29

Didn't prince Edward's wife have a job?

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 10/09/2019 14:29

or other. sigh.

diddl · 10/09/2019 14:49

H&M wouldn't have lived at WC though would they as it's an official residence of the Monarch?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2019 14:56

Didn't prince Edward's wife have a job?

Best not to mention it, LaMarschallin Wink Sophie started a PR firm called R-JH which didn't do terribly well and was sued for unpaid debts ... which maybe explains how she came to be involved in the "fake sheikh" sting

www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/apr/08/uk.news

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2019 14:59

Sorry, I should have added that the Queen later bought Sophie off - also Edward and his failed film company - by paying them to be "full time working royals"

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2019 15:08

Best not to mention it,LaMarschallin

Oh. Okay.
I just thought that she had worked for a living before she married.
Best to pretend she didn't then.

SamanthaBrique · 10/09/2019 15:17

IIRC Sophie didn't give up her PR work after she married, only after the fake sheikh business. And how an experienced PR professional fell for that scam is besides me. But she's barely put a foot wrong since becoming a full time working royal, I'll give her that much.

Becles · 10/09/2019 15:21

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I've just had new leather sofas delivered. They came from an ex-display warehouse too

I'm on the Hunt for a sofa, do you have a link to.the warehouse please?

BertrandRussell · 10/09/2019 15:24

I love the concept of a “full time working Royal” Grin

SamanthaBrique · 10/09/2019 15:30

Aye @BertrandRussell, nice work if you can get it!

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 10/09/2019 15:34

H&M wouldn't have lived at WC though would they as it's an official residence of the Monarch?

Perhaps it's another rubbish story then, although it was said that's why Frogmore was offered as an alternative. Must say Frogmore doesn't look half as palatial as Bagshot Park.

Don't see what was wrong with KP myself.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2019 15:34

Becles Just PM'd you with a link to the furniture place

Bertrand you're right, "full time"'s hardly appropriate. "Someone who does exclusively royal duties perhaps ... ? Wink

LaMarschallin my fault for putting it badly; the "best not to mention it" was a (failed) attempt at irony!!

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2019 15:41

was a (failed) attempt at irony!!

I wouldn't say it failed.

So, she did work for a living once, even it all went pear-shaped after she married?

That's what I'd thought.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2019 15:49

So, she did work for a living once, even it all went pear-shaped after she married?

Indeed; in fact at the time there was much made about how wonderful it all was that both she and Edward were "working for a living" and wouldn't be "hangers on" like so many others - oh dear me no

But no doubt they'd prefer us not to mention that ...

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 10/09/2019 15:54

I love the concept of a “full time working Royal”

I remember thinking maternity leave from what? When MM had Archie but perhaps I'm being unfair.

I wonder what is involved in the job of professional meet and greet. Do you have to attend briefings on the charities beforehand? or does your PR team and personal Secretary do the 'hard work' for you? Is there lot's of prior research and personal reading involved? Otherwise it looks like picking out expensive clothes, doing oneself up nicely and going down and shaking hands and making polite small talk and cementing networks over expensive lunches and dinners. The benefits for such a 'job' are extremely generous to make an understatement.

But Sophie does, I think, get the concept of a wider commitment to the institution of the Monarchy, which is partly why I suspect the Queen gets on with her so well.