Prince Harry - AIBU?

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Prince Harry saying "we can all do better" has really irked me- aibu?! He has every want and need satisfied while the majority of us and trying to do right by the environment whilst making ends meet. He is becoming very sanctimonious!

Actually, Sophie is involved with an organisation I’m involved with and she’s brilliant at it- the kids love her. And she’ll have a go at stuff and allows them to take selfies with her. But she’s there for about 30 minutes, so not an arduous working day. Her presence does make the kids feel important- and they often come from backgrounds where they don’t, much. Once we’ve explained who she is, of course!

Indeed; in fact at the time there was much made about how wonderful it all was that both she and Edward were "working for a living" and wouldn't be "hangers on" like so many others - oh dear me no

But no doubt they'd prefer us not to mention that

I sure you're right.
I was checking that I'd got my facts straight in thinking that she'd worked for her living once.
It might have been more sensible to give up immediately on marrying Edward and become a hanger-on straight away.

I seem to remember that Edward was pretending to work for a living at the time too.....

Well to be fair Diana worked didn't she?

I think the difference is not having to stick to it to pay the bills.

I've got an idea that Camilla worked at some point also.

I think the difference is not having to stick to it to pay the bills.

I think that's fair comment.

Sophie isn’t from a rich background iirc, so couldn’t just sit back. Obviously that changed when she married in.

Though I’m shocked to find her heralded as some kind of superior example for Meghan to follow. As she often is on here.

The fake Sheikh incident was hugely embarrassing for the royal family, slagging off senior political figures and letting private royal opinions be known. Far worse than anything Meghan has purportedly done.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2001/apr/09/qanda.derekbrown

Otherwise it looks like picking out expensive clothes, doing oneself up nicely

They’ll have flunkies to do all that too if they cba.

Otherwise it looks like picking out expensive clothes, doing oneself up nicely

Gizza job - I can do that!

(Well, if you add "as possible" after the "nicely" bit)

“Though I’m shocked to find her heralded as some kind of superior example for Meghan to follow. As she often is on here.”

Yes- that is soooooo weird!

I wonder what is involved in the job of professional meet and greet. Do you have to attend briefings on the charities beforehand? or does your PR team and personal Secretary do the 'hard work' for you?

Documentaries and biographers suggest that they send over their "team" ahead of any visit, who prepare a summary of what's happening, who'll be met, what the current issues are and so on. It's often said that charities keep the RF "fully informed", but who actually does the legwork of reading the bumph is another matter entirely

And I guess a lot depends on the actual engagement; a quick handshake and a "have you come far?" won't need anything like the kind of background briefing that, say, a half day visit will

When Sophie comes to our things, she just asks the kids questions. No briefing necessary, really. Or at least, no more than a quick read of the fact sheet we submit in advance.

Why doesn't Prince Edward just come out?
I agree Sue that PA is worse than PH. I mean all that with Jeffrey Epstein, obviously he will have known something was going on if loads of young girls were coming and going all the time from Epstein's homes. What did he think was happening, bible study?

Anyway. Back to H and M. What
have they done that’s worse than what the Wessexes did? And why does Wessex sound much more lie a proper Dukedom than Sussex or Cambridge do? You can imagine Wessex in the battlefield. Sussex and Cambridge not so much.

Why doesn't Prince Edward just come out?

Difficult at this point I think.

"have you come far?"

Haha! Yes that's great isn't it?

Pretends interest but doesn't really get a conversation going!

You can imagine Wessex in the battlefield. Sussex and Cambridge not so much

Perhaps, but since Essex hasn't even existed since the 10th century I always thought it a bit odd to give Edward that particular handle

And just a thought, but if the age-old rumours about Edward are true, perhaps that might explain the RF's tolerance of Sophie's indiscretions ... a sort of thanks for her services to the Crown IYSWIM?

Duuuhhh ... Wessex, not Essex

Anyway. Back to H and M. What
have they done that’s worse than what the Wessexes did?
Where to start..... Absolutely loads.

The rumours years ago were that Andrew was gay not Edward but who knows.

“Where to start..... Absolutely loads”
Seriously? Worse than the Fake Sheik thing?

William famously made a comment that he doesn’t read his, though I suppose that may have changed.

I should hope so!

For most visits though you wouldn’t really need to be briefed- people are always willing to tell you about what they’re doing- Sophie hardly gets a word in edgeways with our kids!

Sophies a bit like Catherine Parr isn't she? CP managed to hastily pull herself back after expressing too many unfavourable religious opinions to Henry VIII and Sophie likewise has managed to pull herself back after publicly talking about matters she ought not. Both women were conspired against by others intent on orchestrating their downfall and both women have sensed how close to danger they sailed and through the excercising of prudence and commonsense, have sucessfully steered themselves into calmer waters. Now both women (one through the gaze of history) are regarded as capable Royal wives and an asset to the Crown. Both did so first by realising they needed to speak less and concentrate on their first duty: making their husbands happy and secondly serving their Royal duties and staying within their remit.

And just a thought, but if the age-old rumours about Edward are true, perhaps that might explain the RF's tolerance of Sophie's indiscretions ... a sort of thanks for her services to the Crown IYSWIM?

There's that as well.

Best not to mention it, LaMarschallin wink Sophie started a PR firm called R-JH which didn't do terribly well and was sued for unpaid debts ... which maybe explains how she came to be involved in the "fake sheikh" sting

I suppose the problem is that we are, for the most part, talking about people with fairly modest/average abilities, but being royal means that if they ARE going to work then there is the expectation that the work is going to be something high-level, swish and impressive. I mean, you can't be royal and work as a teaching assistant or a doctor's receptionist or something normal/average like that. You have to run some amazing prestigious company or whatever. If someone of average abilities is expected to carry out such a demanding role, the results are likely to be a bit embarrassing.

It's a pity that the royal family isn't a bit cleverer. They're not particularly bright people and have not been since the time of the Hanoverians. Doesn't help that the "blood" members keep marrying sporty thugs like Prince Philip and pretty clothes-horses like Diana, Kate and Meghan.