If we have a General Election?

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How many of you would vote Labour if we had a General Election, just wondering as there have been a few negative comments on here about Labour recently

Vote conservative here.

Would love to live in a marginal seat. I have voted every opportunity I've ever had and have never felt my vote mattered at all. I am Labour at heart (old Labour, not New Labour or Post-New Labour) but always vote Lib Dem as am in a safe Tory area with a twat for an MP so if there was a miracle it would go to Lib Dems.

Maybe I need to move? I am clearly not living with 'my people'.

I do not agree with the idea of s taking away of wealth from one sector to give to another
Yes you do - you believe poor people should pay ever increasing sums to rich people - and it's happening.

Maybe I need to move? I am clearly not living with 'my people'.
It's a shame out electoral system is so shit that large numbers of people's votes are ignored.

Would never vote Labour - Conservative all the way!

You have to be a massive arsehole to still be voting Tory after their devastating austerity measures.

I live in an extremely safe Tory seat. I usually vote for whoever I feel best represents my views (usually Lib Dem or occasionally Greens) as I feel at least my voice is being heard even though they have no chance.

However, if we have a GE now, I think I'd have to spoil my ballot paper as it wouldn't make a difference anyway.

Mustard - really rich or really stupid. Or both.

milk its interesting that you think there is more of a connection between labour and socialism than there is between tory and socialism.

'New labour' policy is/was indistinguishable from 'one nation conservatism' from the point of view of socialism. Its always worth checking what the policies of all parties actually are, rather than assuming the tories are more capitalist and less socialist than labour by default.

I did the 'who should I vote for' quiz at the last election and discovered there were way more tory policies I agreed with than I ever would have guessed.

In the end I had best alignment with the green party...because I think nuclear weapons are bad, and that people with disabilities shouldn't be pushed into suicide by the likes of ATOS and Capita...and at the time the green party was the only one that disagreed with both spending on nuclear weapons and outsourcing disability assessment to clueless fuckers out to make money.

I think what you need to vote Tory, above all else, is a lack of imagination. You have to fail to imagine that one day you too, could be reliant on the state to survive.

Only people who totally fail to imagine what it would be like to have to use food banks or beg for money/shelter/support for your children would support a party that deliberately set out to increase the number of people in that position.

I do not agree with the idea of socialism and the taking away of wealth from one sector to give to another. That is why I do not and never would vote Labour

Weird, so don't believe in any form of social welfare, the NHS or universal education?
Lets hope you or your loved ones ever need to call 999.

In fact, taken on face value, you don't want any taxation either? what do you think they predominantly use taxes for?

All the great reforms we've ever had in this country have been from Labour and opposed by the Cons, starting with worker rights.

I vote Labour when there is a realistic chance they can get in, LibDems otherwise, only the very wealthy should vote Tory.

The only way I’ll be reliant on the state to survive is if Corbyn steals all my money!

Whoever is most likely to beat the Tories and anything to stop a rascist homophobe adulterer continuing as Prime Minister

Conservative

The only people taking your money is the tories, via hidden taxes like insurance and flight taxes, council tax, university and OU fees and cutting public services so we have to pay the extra, not least in crime.

Plus the total mis-management of brexit and billions of taxpayers money spent on it, 6 billion and counting, oh yes and out of control HS2 costs, Crossrail, aircraft carriers with no planes, tories waste your money!

But Labour want to put up taxes to 50% from 45% for the very richest and suddenly he is a robbing communist.

As a mostly Labour voter (with occasional forays into the Lib Dems and Greens) I really dislike this "you have to be evil/thick/totally selfish to vote Tory" attitude. It is possible, for instance, to believe in good faith (mistakenly in my opinion, but nonetheless in good faith on the part of the believer) that trickle down economics works, and that Labour would shaft the economy so badly that an even greater number of people would suffer poverty under a Labour government.

Believing one's opponents can only hold the views they do because they are bad is the bane of modern politics. It's leads to the sort of polarisation that's leaving us sliding inexorably towards a hard Brexit.

(Of course, I'd make an exception for people whose political beliefs were inextricably tied to overt racism... but the mainstream Tory party doesn't fit this description, much as I hate much of what they have done.)

cendrillon Can you explain your thinking on that? I mean I have money in the bank...but I know that fraud and identity theft can happen...I have a job, but I know that businesses collapse...I have my health but I know that accidents and disease can happen.

Can you explain how you know that you are immune to all the above and hence will never be reliant on the state?

Seems to me from reading this thread the people voting Tory are being polite and respectful and as always the Labour people have to make some kind of prejudice unpleasant comment.

Would like to vote labour but don't like Corbyn or momentum. Very safe Tory seat and actually don't mind our current Tory mp even though I don't like the rest of the party. Don't know who to vote for.

well don't tar labour on my account...I'm not a labour supporter.

Let's be real, a vote for the Tories at this point is a vote for Donald Trump. BJ is his lap dog and we will become little America because they've all sold out 💸

choc I also think its possible for 'I'd never vote for socialists' to come across quite attacky, and not very respectful if you've a relative who topped themselves because they couldn't afford heating or lighting due to austerity....

I mean its quite personal even if its not meant to be.

We live in a safe Tory seat, which is doubtless the only reason that our charisma-vacuum of an MP had her seat. It’s hard to muster any sort of enthusiasm for voting - but I will. Probably Lib Dem, maybe Green.

I voted tactically last time, for Labour, and TM spun it into support for Brexit because Labour are a Brexit-supporting party. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

It won’t matter anyway. Effectively, I have no representative in Parliament because my MP prioritises her own advancement over her constituents, and enough people vote Tory by reflex for her to get away with it.

BarbaraStrozzi I totally agree

Sadly many labour voters believe themselves to be morally superior (and have even seen people admit to this on here) because they vote labour

Feeling too Ill to read all the responses but currently monster raving looney party get my vote