To think there will be riots?

[Anoni]

Announced on the news that boris johnson may suspend parliament to reduce the chance of mps being able to block a no deal brexit allowing him to democratically force the uk to leave the EU.

Am i wrong in thinking if this goes ahead there may be serious protests and maybe even riots in london and all across the country to force the governments hand?

but I can't nip into central London for a demo sad
Aim for the nearest city.
I hope demonstrations are organised in every city.
I didn't think it could get any worse, but there you go.
I marched every Saturday with the water protestors the togetherness was good.
The latest news affects leavers and remainders. 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️

Well, if we're taking anecdotally about Brexit, my best friend is self employed by the EU researching and writing up Medical Studies across the EU. She's been scared for her job for a long time but has just been employed by Dublin Uni, best pay she's had and longer term contract. When she mentioned Brexit they just shrugged and said it wasn't an issue.

I knew about the October demonstration, DogInaTent, but I hoped that this announcement would lead to something considerably more immediate.

Germany are the eu... we are their 4th biggest export market do you really think they dont want to get a trade agreement through quickly to keep selling us their cars and pharmaceuticals
You really think mercedes bmw and audi wont be in Merkel's ear if they have to pay 20% tariffs to sell their cars into their biggest export market

We already had a deal, but the hard brexit side didn't vote with it
You need to check your facts - it wasn't just the hard line Brexiteers who defeated the deal.

Agreed @EmeraldShamrock.
It really upsets me when I hear people saying they 'can't wait for it to be over.' It hasn't even started. This is the tip of the iceberg, especially if we go full out no deal. I know so many people who work in the medical field and they are unanimously scared for our future.
There's still so much ignorance out there and the real brextremists really don't seem to care who gets hammered in the process. My husband lost his job last year because of brexit but when I mention this on forums either people don't care or don't believe me. It's going to be a rude awakening.

"The British don't do riots, they put the kettle on. Occasionally there's a mass outbreak of Sports Direct looting, but not over political procedural matters."

How old are you? Too young to remember the poll tax riots? 2001 riots? Geez even the 2011 London riots?

"WHERE THE FUCK IS THE OPPOSITION?" Actually they're orchestrating cross party opposition & challenges to this via a variety of methods as we speak. I believe Phillip Hammond is representing the tory side of this?

Onatree- nice! And fuck all of us likely to be made ill and even have their lives put at risk by this shit!

"I don’t think that riots will happen now, I think that will happen in November." Unfortunately I think this is probably more accurate.

It's only when food & medicines and other essentials become short and people feel the effects of this bullshit that they'll react.

The vast majority in Parliament originally voted for Article 50 to be triggered. It was then that MP's should have voted against it - not trigger it then find a way to stop It!
Exactly Milicent and that's why MPs from all sides are to blame for this. But conveniently for some of them, lots of the electorate seem to have forgotten that fact and a surprisingly large number of them are on MN .
This entire episode has been the fault of all our elected representatives. I'm equally embarrassed by and angry with them.

If I was a sports company or phone company I would block up my window displays if there was a big protest. Looting is a high risk.

Spot on, Alexalee.

Good. There needs to be. This Government are out of control. There won't be riots though because we have become passive and compliment and acquiescent! All in all pathetic!

Pop over to Gransnet - no apathy there. Perhaps it is because many lived through the aftermath of the bloody conflict that come from one man's attempt to throw democracy out of the window.

2011 was just loads of thugs using the death of a criminal to decide to loot things and generally cause havoc

@alexalee medical/ pharma industry. Doesn't really matter which industry as the job losses are happening everywhere. Neighbour works in banking and was made redundant a few weeks ago.

@alexalee *You voted for an mp to vote on your behalf in parliament... if they did that then we would have left long ago, many more constituencies voted leave tha remain, yet the sitting mp voted for what they wanted, hence not being democratic and doing their duty"

That's not how how our democracy is supposed to work; it's why you haven't been asked by your MP what your views on the right level of budget deficit are, or what the tax rates should be, or how many ships to put in the Gulf etc. MPs exercise their judgement on behalf of all their consituents using knowledge they have and we, by and large don't. We don't instruct, we elect.

When it comes to the referendum, we voted to leave. The Government negotiated the exit from the treaties and Brexiteer MPs exercised their judgement to kill the WA by voting not to Leave. No-one can reasonably, both support that and at the same time criticize MPs who take the opposite view for killing a top-down Farage inspired vision of the future on the basis that it is undemocratic.

The Irish shruggingnsaying Brexit isnt an issue?
Seriously?
Not if my visit 2 weeks ago is anything to go by.
The irish are going to be hit by this.

many more constituencies voted leave tha remain

The electorate weren't asked which version of Leave they wanted. Leave voters will include everyone from No Deal to Norway Model.

David Cameron explicitly said that Leave could be whatever voters wanted and it could be in several different forms.

The problem is the Tories forming an alliance with the DUP. The border being in the Irish Sea would be the obvious solution to the backstop but May's red lines DUP votes meant we were left with this insane process.

My local Tory MPs always vote how the whip tells them to. Brexit was always about the Tory party rather than the good of the nation and they've cocked up so badly that Nigel is even stronger than before

@alexalee
Ever since the Brexit referendum the big German manufacturers have calling on Merkel to protect and strengthen the EU and not give into UK demands. They've stated they're prepared to take losses in order to protect the EU.

Since the Brexit announcement the EU has established trade deals with new markets bigger than the UK. It will not be too hard for BMW, Mercedes, etc. to make up and exceed the value of their exports to the UK.

And your ignorance is showing. The car maker doesn't pay the tariff. The car buyer pays.

And what's 20% on the price of a luxury BMW to someone that's saving ten times that every year after Brexit because by leaving the EU the UK isn't forced into taking measures to prevent tax avoidance? (which is why 31 Oct is such a key deadline)

Lola I'm not saying 'The Irish' as a group enmasse....just this particular employer of my friend in Dublin. You think I'm just making it up?

We've had a referendum. The vote was to leave. Boris is doing that, go Boris.

I have posted a link to a petition getting going to try to stop this. AIBU to share this petition with you

According to the most recent polls only 25% of people support no deal. Johnson is forcing no deal through without a mandate. The only reasonable thing to do at this point would be to put it back to the people on the basis that more specific information has been made available to voters. The brexit vote was based on the idea there would be a deal. It is totally undemocratic to force it through without one.
Personally I don't think that it should have been in the hands of the people anyway (too many misinformed/ apathetic voters and public is easily manipulated by the lies of the media).

My ignorance is showing... you think someone is just going to accept paying 20k more for a german car... ok
I think you should look at who buys the most german cars pretty sure the uk buys 15% ish... but I'm sure they can absorb that loss and sell to people in these other new markets hahaha

The irish are going to be hit by this
Big time. The Irish has been preparing for a no deal Brexit, advising people with UK driving licence they wont be valid, employing 100's of custom officers, most companies are preparing.

The bigger issue of a border war, the Republicans won't accept they are incased by the British again, the loyalist won't accept being a United Ireland or different status to the rest of the UK.

it’ll be interesting to see how many riots, deaths, injuries, arrests, robberies, attacks, lies, backtracks and apologies we’ll have over the next year. Will our society collapse, will we have food shortages, will we end up begging for mercy, will we be prospering, will we have an NHS, will the police turn into military guarding our streets, will unemployment skyrocket, will we become like Venezuela or Greece during their financial crisis? Or will it be business as usual?

It’s a bit like driving along an A road in between both lanes and just hoping for the best.