To think there will be riots?

[Anoni]

Announced on the news that boris johnson may suspend parliament to reduce the chance of mps being able to block a no deal brexit allowing him to democratically force the uk to leave the EU.

Am i wrong in thinking if this goes ahead there may be serious protests and maybe even riots in london and all across the country to force the governments hand?

I can't understand why people think it will over and done with on the 31st.
The shit and sorrow will only start then it will be decades before it is over and done with.
Do People believe they'll wake on the 1st of November to an independent UK where the streets are paved with flowers, more likely the food and medicine shortages will only begin, years of trade deals to be made, it is not going to be over on the 31st far from it.

@Onatreebyariver

The majority vote was minimal. Many people got brought into the lies Boris said. Many of those have now changed their minds.
Nothing to get over 🙄

It is in the interests of all parties to get on and make deals so we can trade and get on with life, that's what we will do

That isn't what we are doing. Boris Johnson is attempting to silence all of the other Parties, and actually most of his own MPs too, whether leave or remain, in the run up to one of the biggest episodes of our political history. There will be no discussion in Parliament if this goes ahead. At all. And given that he's flouting democracy now, why would he ask the Queen to open Parliament again? Once started, why not just keep going without other Parties' voices to bother with?

People blaming remain mps for this need to get a grip.
Did leave win, yes. But did some people vote for remain, yes. Therefore some mps will reflect the remain attitudes that leaving is bad. That's democracy, people representing the peoples opinions. Of course some mps are going to try stop no deal and crashing out as that's what a large part of the country don't want.

We already had a deal, but the hard brexit side didn't vote with it. So blame boris, reese mogg etc for their failiure to vote for a deal and therefore delaying brexit

Bad news @Alexalee , you don't vote for an MP to act on your behalf. You vote to choose what you think is the best person for the job and is able to exercise judgement in Parliamentary votes. Otherwise a Tory MP would have to act on your instructions if you were a Labour voter. They will lobby for you with government on personal issues you raise with them.
But I'm guessing you don't care about reality.

many more constituencies voted leave tha remain

This was the product of what is known to be fraudulent conduct on the part of the Leave campaign. The government itself has admitted that, if this had been a binding vote rather than a purely advisory one, it would have had to be set aside.

I can never understand why people keep bleating that the referendum vote is sacrosanct. If we had an honest government, the result would have been binned long ago.

We should have had a remainder in charge from the get go. The opposition are frankly a shower of shit and need a rocket up their arses.

I voted remain, however the majority voted to leave with no real idea of how that was going to happen. So I do agree we need to leave as that's the democratic thing to do.

It's shambolic, however I do think something will now happen god only knows what though so I shall don my tin hat!

You voted for an mp to vote on your behalf in parliament... if they did that then we would have left long ago, many more constituencies voted leave tha remain, yet the sitting mp voted for what they wanted, hence not being democratic and doing their duty

Or they voted for what they genuinely believed to be in the best interests of the people they represent. Unsurprisingly, they probably consider food and medicine shortages to not be ideal.

Luckily, if Johnson gets his way and prorogues Parliament then you don't need to worry about how your MP votes any more. S/he won't have a vote so that's that problem solved.

I'm not up for rioting, I'm certainly up for demonstrating. Does anyone know if specific demonstrations have been planned?

However, I think people are right that the riots will start when there isn't enough food available and essential medication disappears.

The British don't do riots, they put the kettle on. Occasionally there's a mass outbreak of Sports Direct looting, but not over political procedural matters.

The question is whether or not Johnson intends to do it at all or if it's part of his brinkmanship strategy. Although he seems to not realise that brinkmanship has been regarded as a recklessly stupid strategy in international negotiations and business for decades.

If there's going to be civil disobedience it will be after it's too late, and will largely feature those that voted Leave protesting, "Why didn't you tell us these would be the consequences?"

Corbyn et al forced boris hand and he had the balls to stand up to them

How does running away from Parliament amount to standing up to anyone?

Bellini your mp stands on a manifesto... conservatives manifesto was to make leave happen... plenty of conservative mps ignoring that

You are obviously one of the doom mongers, lucky for you things will be better than you think.

It's an abomination, it really is. The far right are literally taking over on the back of the brexit vote. I think we should all be really worried. If Johnson can give himself the power to quash parliament what else can he do? Bye bye NHS...

To answer the OP, I think we are heading for a wall and next week might be the crash point. Yes, I do think there will be riots coming from the hard right if anybody upsets the march towards no deal. BNP, Farage, Banks, Grimes etc are all stirring up violence in every tweet. Remainers will probably come out with peaceful protests.

I'm hoping the opposition will come through, using parliament and law to do so. They need to keep following procedures otherwise they will be stoking the chaos that Johnson is creating.

I don't see riots.
I sadly don't see much happening until it is far too late. I don't think BJ does either which is why he is doing this.

I am old enough to recall the power cuts of the 70`s I had a weekend job and was serving bacon and cheese with candles on the top of the counter. It was not great, sitting in the dark with a torch to read a book, no electricity for hours on end. We used to say a hurrah when the power came back on. Everyone survived no-one died

The good old bad old three day week!

Yes we survived i even mamaged to build a small electricity generatiog station, kept four neighbours supplied as well as ourselves, was quite popular in our street:)

@Tonnerre
I'm not up for rioting, I'm certainly up for demonstrating. Does anyone know if specific demonstrations have been planned?
19th October in London. It's been planned/advertised for weeks (date changed from 12th to 19th due to clash with GOSH charity event).

I'm livid. And I don't know what I can do.
Lone parent, working. I'll write to my MP but I can't nip into central London for a demo .

Alexalee, my husband lost his job last year because of Brexit. It's been hell. I'd love you to come and explain to him and my kids why we should still be feeling 'positive'.

I do follow politics to a certain extent. At the moment it's scary but not boring!

I voted to Remain but I'm also one of those people who wishes it was now just over and we are dealing with the fallout.

I don't agree with suspending parliament, however I honestly don't know the answer. When May was still there they had about 10 voting options of how to deal with Brexit in 2 days or something and not one solution came out with a majority. It's an over-used saying but it really is stalemate. The vast majority in Parliament originally voted for Article 50 to be triggered. It was then that MP's should have voted against it - not trigger it then find a way to stop It!

They say they don't want no-deal but voted against any deal that was made. May's deal was just a withdrawal agreement not the whole future deal. Those terms would have been negotiated over years!

I honestly can't see a way out of it. Personally, I want Boris to do a complete U-turn and say "Fuck it. Fuck Brexit. It's impossible, it's too hard. We're not doing it" however that would cause rioting for definitely being undemocratic (it's also a complete fantasy).

Honestly, can anyone say how they would sort this out? Without saying "We want a deal" (which is what Boris has said he wants above a no-deal any day.

Also, it really bothers me when people bang on about unelected PM's as if the Tories have just invented it. Over history un-elected PM's are about 50/50 including Churchill. Just a pet peeve of mine there....

I'm also old enough to remember the 70's 3 day week.

My friends OH is in fear of losing his job 250k per annum because he works for DFID following brexit who knows what money will be available for overseas aid.

Well, if rioting meant that more of the electorate actually got up got informed and got involved in politics ...

Suzey what industry was that in?

suspect that people are going to sleep through the whole thing though and only go nuts if/once no deal goes through and you start getting shortages in the shops and stuff.

If MPs had put party/personal politics aside and worked together for the good of the country from the start, then we wouldn't all be sick to death of the whole pathetic fiasco and wouldn't have fallen asleep.

We are leaving so I would rather get it over and done with.

A No Deal Brexit is not an end state, as an agreement on trade and future relationship with the EU (our biggest trading partner and closest geographical neighbors would still need to be made eventually). It just means leaving without an agreement and hence without a transition period.

It would be the start of a long, painful process of trying to renegotiate everything from an even weaker position than we are currently in.