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To think there will be riots?

853 replies

Anoni · 28/08/2019 10:51

Announced on the news that boris johnson may suspend parliament to reduce the chance of mps being able to block a no deal brexit allowing him to democratically force the uk to leave the EU.

Am i wrong in thinking if this goes ahead there may be serious protests and maybe even riots in london and all across the country to force the governments hand?

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MrsFogi · 28/08/2019 12:55

Riots - no. But I hope there are a huge number of protests (I will certainly join) - if not, frankly we deserve any mess the government makes.

lovelookslikethis · 28/08/2019 12:56

No there will not be riots op.

araiwa · 28/08/2019 12:56

You have my sword..

GrouchoMrx · 28/08/2019 12:58

The UK is no longer a DEMOCRACY.

Alexalee · 28/08/2019 12:59

This was always going to happen as there was no compromise from the remainer mps

EmmaLouisLou · 28/08/2019 12:59

I can see there being riots if we don’t leave on 31st October. I think most people just want it over and done with now, it’s dragged on too long. I’m more annoyed about politicians constantly trying to stop us from leaving, the referendum happened, the result was leave, they should be working to get the best deal not standing in the way forcing a no deal.

magicmole · 28/08/2019 12:59

I would normally say, no, we Brits won't bother, but I've had one family member ask this morning 'so when are we taking to the streets?' and a friend saying we need a general strike. They're both furious with Johnson.

I'd expect people who follow politics to say that sort of thing but these are people who aren't the slightest bit 'political' and don't go in for protests and petitions and all the rest. One of them was a Leave voter, partly because he said he wanted the UK Parliament to have MORE power, not less and as he put it "I didn't vote for this shitshow". Something has definitely shifted.

So YANBU to wonder but I really hope you're wrong.

bellinisurge · 28/08/2019 13:00

The MPs who blocked Brexit were Leavers -ERG and DUP. They didn't support their own PM.

MyCatsHat · 28/08/2019 13:01

On the one hand it is terrible and I hope and believe it can be stopped. I have said from the start that Brexit won't happen - I'm still going with that! Because the more time goes by, the stronger the argument is that it isn't democratic unless we have another (this time better informed) vote.

On the other hand I can totally understand if people just don't give a crap any more. For all that time I was very invested in in how Theresa May was handling it, the problems, the court cases, the votes. Then that finally all went down the toilet and now we have BJ, I just struggle to take it seriously. He seems like a made-up joke PM who happens to be acting like a dictator and it all seems so unreal. If I feel a bit like that when I'm quite into current affairs, I can see why a lot of people are now totally meh, or just blindly pro-no-deal as some kind of "solution".

Whosorrynow · 28/08/2019 13:01

I do not predict a riot

Alexalee · 28/08/2019 13:02

The hypocrisy is rife amongst the remain mps... moaning about boris being undemocratic... what about them ignoring the vote 3 years ago and trying everything to overturn it... was that them being democratic?

Cinammoncake · 28/08/2019 13:03

what about them ignoring the vote 3 years ago Confused well that didn't happen

justasking111 · 28/08/2019 13:05

Hands up who suspects they are more intelligent and switched on than their MP. Ours is a buffoon with a nasty habit of feathering his own nest.

ButterflyAles · 28/08/2019 13:08

Those who are saying to 'just get on with it' and 'it's the will of the people' do realise that it isn't Brexit that's the worry now?

It's that our Prime Minister is going to shut down our Parliament. Shut it down so that we have no democratic representation at all.

Did you never sit in history lessons and hear about how Hitler took control of the Reichstag and dismantled its democratic power to take control without interference and wonder how on Earth he got away with it? 'Haha no one's bothered, sick of hearing about it, just get on with it, people voted for them'. That's how!

The idea that a PM can prorogue Parliament on a whim and get away with it due to populism and apathy in 2019 in the UK should genuine make everyone think seriously about the route we are headed down. This is dangerous and, really, not about Brexit as such, but about the flouting of democracy.

Alexalee · 28/08/2019 13:08

Corbyn et al forced boris hand and he had the balls to stand up to them

Tatogratin · 28/08/2019 13:10

Operation Yellowhammer is preparing for 'protests' and 'civil unrest' and the implications for policing/prison spaces in the event of a no deal. So riots aren't out of the question.

Whosorrynow · 28/08/2019 13:10

Desperate times call for desperate measures

Wehttam · 28/08/2019 13:10

mamaFlintstine spot on. No one cared until they saw it as a scapegoat for their failings. I’m neither for or against, I just don’t want my way of life and future to be fucked up whatever happens. Once we leave though and people find themselves in a worse situation or nothing has changed for the better for them, what/ who will they be able to blame?

PortiaCastis · 28/08/2019 13:11

I voted for an MP not a bloody dictator!
Over ruling Parliament is disgusting !

sheshootssheimplores · 28/08/2019 13:12

There will be riots when there is no food on the shelves.

familycourtq · 28/08/2019 13:12

The UK is no longer a DEMOCRACY.
We haven't been a democracy for ages.
We have an outdated FPTP electoral system that ignores the votes of large numbers.
We have no written constitution.
We are in need of democratic reform and have been badly in need of it for years.

ButterflyAles · 28/08/2019 13:12

Corbyn et al forced boris hand and he had the balls to stand up to them

Listen to yourself man! Forced him to try and render Parliament powerless with only his own opinion and thoughts represented? We are a representative democracy. Boris Johnson is attempting to rid himself and us of democracy. Absolutely no one, whatever your political stripes, should be seeing this for anything less than it absolutely is - a unconstitutional power grab to undermine democracy. What would you say if Johnson decides not to have the Queen open another Parliament? Would that be okay too?

Whosorrynow · 28/08/2019 13:13

It is in the interests of all parties to get on and make deals so we can trade and get on with life, that's what we will do

LadyOfTheCanyon · 28/08/2019 13:14

The PP who said that civilisation is only 4 meals away from anarchy is completely correct. The riots will start when there is little to no fresh food easily available, the prices rise to the extent that people on the breadline can't afford the food that is in the shops, food banks run out because people stop donating, services like power and water become unstable.... I live in London and this year when the water supply in part of our borough was cut for two days it was chaos locally with people queuing for handout bottles of water, all the local shops sold out- and that was just a few streets. Imagine that writ large across the cities of the UK and tell me it won't kick off.

Alexalee · 28/08/2019 13:14

You voted for an mp to vote on your behalf in parliament... if they did that then we would have left long ago, many more constituencies voted leave tha remain, yet the sitting mp voted for what they wanted, hence not being democratic and doing their duty

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