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how to nicely get grown woman to clean

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leafyygreens · 27/08/2019 22:01

I'm in my 20s, and due to a combination of crippling student debt and choosing to pursue my dream job in london, am still living in a rented flatshare with no escape in sight Grin

The classic issue- my flatmate is messy and avoids cleaning. She keeps her bedroom door shut, but once I had to let the landlord in and it was like a teenagers with crap everywhere and a musty smell. Obviously that's completely fine as it's her space, but as mess/dirt doesn't bother her I always end up cleaning in the communal spaces.

In the end I suggested each of us cleans half the flat once a week, it's tiny so honestly takes no more than 20 mins if you're fast. We've lived together for almost a year and recently every week there's an excuse- she's tired, she's too stressed, too busy, or recently, she was upset about the situation in a country she'd recently visited and didn't feel able to clean. I have such frustration as it's not like she's so busy she has no time- she doesn't work and is doing an artsy masters that takes up around 5-10 hours each week. The rest of the time she spends in coffee shops and restaurants.

I feel weird about talking to her about it as she's a grown woman at 38. What's a non-confrontational way to go about this? Would i be unreasonable to say if you don't want to clean that's fine, but please pay for a cleaner to do your portion? She takes absolutely ages to organise or sort out anything, so I could see her saying that's fine but never actually get round to organising it. AGH. Work is stressful and the house is gross! (DM is loving the situation as I used to be a messy teenager, much to her despair)

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SoyDora · 30/08/2019 08:04

Or maybe she’s never found anyone suitable to marry/have children with? Should she have settled, just to fit someone’s view of what a 38 year old woman should be doing?

dayslikethese1 · 30/08/2019 09:40

I can't tell from the OP how messy this woman is. She only mentions there being stuff everywhere in the woman's own room. Maybe it's not that bad and OP has very high standards? What does she not specifically? I don't think getting her to pay you is a good idea tbh, seems like it could lead to problems. I like PPs suggestion of having a cleaning session together.

dayslikethese1 · 30/08/2019 09:41

*not do specifically

Jesse70 · 30/08/2019 10:09

@soydora
I don't care if she has wants or doesn't want kids
I didn't want any until I was in my mid 30's
Irrelevant
She's lazy and expect her housemate to clean up after her! She's 38 not 12 ! No responsibility and no respect for her house mate
I can't help paint a picture of a loser
#lifegoals

SoyDora · 30/08/2019 10:23

But that’s not what you said in your last post.

What has she been doing the past 38 years to be in education now? I doubt she has any kids going by her living situation and spending her spare time in coffee shops

That ^ has nothing to do with how clean (or not) she is. That is a judgement on her for not having children and being in education at the age of 38. Her cleanliness is an entirely separate issue to her life choices.

Anyway, we all have opinions on what makes someone a ‘loser’ I guess. For me, it’s people who say thinks like ‘#lifegoals’.

SoyDora · 30/08/2019 10:24

*things

Jesse70 · 30/08/2019 11:20

Soydora
I just think some people get into education late because they have had kids and waited until they were at school or moved out etc I'm sure there's plenty of other reasons that was just one I had thought of but she still seems like a bit of a waste of space to me

I don't really care on your opinion of me as u seem to have some sort of problem

I won't try any guess what it is because it would probably be the last straw for u and u would have some kind of breakdown

And I'm not going to get into a slagging match with u either so stop trying to get a rise
Thank you

SoyDora · 30/08/2019 11:21

Yes, I am definitely on the verge of a breakdown Grin

Jesse70 · 30/08/2019 11:33

Well that's a whole other thread

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