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AIBU to think dogs should be banned from parks?

374 replies

Allthebiscuits · 26/08/2019 23:03

They're everywhere, crapping, barking, smelling one another's arses and fighting. Then there are those jumpy ones trying to get a lick of a child's face before bounding off to piss up the nearest tree. Not everyone likes dogs and they spoil the park for kids. I'd love to see them allocated their own area away from the rest of the park where like minded dog owners can all hangout together picking up their pet's turds and convincing each other that "he's usually so gentle". AIBU??

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zoomies1 · 27/08/2019 20:12

And for those saying dog ownership should be more heavily regulated, I agree. I also think having children should be more heavily regulated....!

minesapinkgin · 27/08/2019 20:13

I agree.

My 4 year old fell off his scooter straight in to a pile of dog shit. Disgusting

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 27/08/2019 20:14

And why do we look at all of this and categorise it as a benign activity

Because the vast majority of dogs are benign, cats are murderous bastards, but that's another thread.

I don't want to go into discussions about my right to keep a dog and your right for me not to keep a dog.

I want us to get on, and to demand from the councils and the government more green spaces, and parks and trees.

fluffyjumper · 27/08/2019 20:18

Smoking is far more irritating then dogs, oh and kids who's parents cant be arse to parent them.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 27/08/2019 20:31

I wasn't going to post this as it's highly personal and this thread is pretty vile, but fuck it. I have two dogs and no kids. I also have my father's dog part of the time.

If you recognise my name you'll know my story and I don't feel comfortable going into detail here. Just wanted to say that during the bleakest, darkest days following my husband's death the only thing that got me up in the morning and then kept me going throughout the day was the dog we had. A fabulous collie/lab called Lola that we'd had since a puppy. She grieved as well and we got through it together. She'd sit quietly beside me as I cried and cuddled into me at night. In the days and months that followed, when I cut off the world, she was my company and my companion. My reason for coming home and staying alive.

When my mother died my father got a dog. He's a beautiful white Alsatian called Vaclav. My father had been married for 50 years and had known my mother his entire lifetime. He didn't know how to function without her. He'd also just retired from being a GP and was at a loss as to how to spend his days. From being an active and happy man he became depressed and reclusive. One of his ex patients had just bought a puppy from the same litter (a local owner, not breeder) and visited dad with that puppy. The long and short of it was that Vaclav arrived in my dad's life and has transformed it. I've got my dad back.

That's what dogs do.

HowManyToes · 27/08/2019 20:33

Dogs are like children - when they’re well trained and under control they’re fine. It’s when they’re allowed to run wild without discipline they’re a problem. Works both ways.

LaurieMarlow · 27/08/2019 20:36

Playgrounds yes, parks no.

However, there is a special place in hell for dog owners who don’t pick up their dog shit. It’s absolutely disgusting and I view people who do this as total scum.

brighteyeowl17 · 27/08/2019 20:39

Agree agree agreed or at least must be on a lead. So tired of entitled dog owners.

blahblahblahblahhh · 27/08/2019 20:39

I agree with you, what is this fooooking obsession with dogs in this country! How are dogs now allowed in pubs, restaurants and even John Lewis!!!! I hate dogs, and I don't want them to be around me all the bloody time!

LemonPrism · 27/08/2019 20:44

Those are badly trained dogs. My dads dog is a staffie - she calls to heel, never barks, never goes near dogs or children and listens to all commands. She is excellently trained.

She shits ofc but we pick it up. Yapping, snappy little shits should be banned.

I love dogs though and they need somewhere to play too.

StoneofDestiny · 27/08/2019 20:51

Leighhalfpennysthigh
No disputing what dogs offer to humans, but it is unruly dogs and unruly owners that give concern.

Mydogmylife · 27/08/2019 21:04

@TrainspottingWelsh👍

marriedwithhounds · 27/08/2019 21:27

YABU. Not everyone likes kids but we would never ban them from the park!

CherryPavlova · 27/08/2019 23:05

@ blahblahblahblahhh or indeed children who are being reared thinking the world revolves around them. Both poorly trained dogs and poorly trained children are infuriating to others.
We had a lovely meal yesterday in our favourite restaurant. We sat on the restaurant terrace as it was warm and we had the beast with us. He lay contentedly aside the table dreaming of chasing squirrels and hoping we’d drop a piece of mackerel. Idyllic.
Then an untrained child appeared without parents. Running in between the tables, squealing spotty dog spotty dog and approaching at speed. I told him to go and find his parents but no, two minutes later he was back being pesky and interrupting our conversation. I like children but I dislike rude ones. I particularly dislike parents who think the rules of civility don’t apply to their child. If they are in a restaurant that serves crab in a sorrel crisp with marinated fennel they should be sufficiently trained to sit at a table and not disturb others or risk tipping the wine cooler over.
It’s all about consideration of others. Lazy parenting and lazy dog ownership is equally unacceptable.

Actionhasmagic · 27/08/2019 23:09

Yabu

Flowerballs · 27/08/2019 23:36

Why are people equating dogs to children?

Dogs are pets.

And what's with all the aggression? This is confirming my worst fears about dog owners. It's ok to not like dogs! Personally, I'm indifferent to them, but I can understand why people might not want to share every open space with them, especially if they have phobias, allergies or are vulnerable. It doesn't make you a bad person. Children are vulnerable of course, an adult has a chance of defending themselves if a dog attacks, a child not so much. At least make sure they're on a lead, please!

TrainspottingWelsh · 28/08/2019 00:48

Maybe once a year at the most I’ll find some fuckwit has decided my private land is a perfectly acceptable place to let their badly controlled, untrained dog off lead. They might get away with it if the dog doesn’t enter a field with horses in. But if they do decide to trespass through one with them in, let alone if the dog chases or barks at them, the dog always catches on before the owner that it’s really not a good idea.

Maybe twice a year a perfectly responsible owner might find themselves in the same situation, because shit happens. Their puppy slipped it’s collar, the dog got out, it’s lost etc. And they unfailing apologise like fuck.

Yet it’s 10 times more common to find some fuckwit parent trespassing, because dearest Jacinta wants to molest the cute wickle ponies, and she can only pat big ones if they stay on public land. And trespassing or not, they are entitled to risk harm, or actively harm the horses because their pfb enjoys feeding them treats, or sharing their nasty human snacks or the contents of their garden waste bin.

Or groups of unaccompanied preteens/ teens, wishing to demonstrate either their bravado, or the amazing horse whispering skills they now possess after a year of lessons. These are the equivalent of the escaped dog, but funnily enough I’ve yet to receive any apologies from their parents. And in fact I’m more likely to receive abuse because Hortencia wrecked her shiny new country wear escaping through the hedge when she realised that not all small ponies feel they are obliged to be sat on by pony mad children.

I’ve never needed a vet because someone’s entitled dog has fed them, or needed to repair fences or replant hedges because dogs climb on/ through them. I’ve never seen photos on Facebook of someone’s dog with my horses on my private land saying ‘oh bless he luvs them’.

And possibly my favourite example was a parent that had trespassed through two fields to get to a third with a mare and a week old foal in screaming at me to get my dog on the lead because it was frightening her pfb, seemingly by existing within 3’ of her in what was essentially its own garden.

So yes, personally I do find humans do a lot more harm than dogs. So aibu to want all children banning from the countryside. It’s just unfortunate if the vast majority of perfectly normal families then have to miss out, or perhaps move house because a small minority are entitled, inconsiderate tossers.

gluteustothemaximus · 28/08/2019 00:57

Yep. The park is just one giant dog toilet.

Parks can get rid of badly trained dogs and children TBF. Bad people in general. Then we'd go to the park more.

darkcloudsandsunnyskies · 28/08/2019 01:05

I don’t like dog shit on public spaces. It’s shitty. Why the fuck don’t you fucking lot clean up after you. Theres dog shit everywhere.

WiddlinDiddlin · 28/08/2019 01:27

Does anyone seriously think that responsible dog owners LIKE dog shit everywhere?

There are walks I cannot take my dogs on, because the shit in narrow gate ways that I cannot avoid in my wheelchair stops me (because I have to go into my house and in shops and in my car in that wheelchair, I can't scrape the shit off the wheels five times a day).

I have had to scrape dog shit, and HUMAN SHIT out of my dogs paw pads and my wheels.

I have run over a shit filled nappy some ignorant parent left in a park (I was rather busy watching and training my dog to spot it)...

I could tar all parents with the same brush, I don't, I know its a minority of asshats spoiling it for the majority.

Why can't the dog haters see its the same thing with dogs?

MrsP2015 · 28/08/2019 02:17

I agree.
I only usually get weekends to take out dd to meet friends- we like to use outdoors as much as possible for loads of reasons.

Unfortunately we cannot have picnics on blankets due to dogs off leads deciding to walk through the babies to lick/ smell/ eat their food so have to stand up feeding them in pushchairs as busy weekends mean there's rarely free tables/ benches.

The other day a random dog ran up to us and put its face in my baby's- not what I want and the owner was nowhere to be seen. That dog could have been the gentlest dog or it could have bitten my baby's face. As a non- dog person, how do I read signs from random dogs to know what to do.

Another day as we are walking on a fairly busy park route for all walkers, a loose dog was sniffing the track (Labrador/ golden retriever looks) as with most dogs to teach the babies, we walked past on the track- not near the dog saying 'look dog, woof woof' to which the owner said 'watch her as she will bark and you'll know about it' wtf? If your dog don't like people walking past then don't use busy walking places.

There should be areas for dogs and areas safe to let children run free without fear of dogs approaching.

What if the child has allergies to dogs- does that child have to stay inside forever.

I like the idea of beaches where dogs ARE NOT allowed- large parks should do the same.

This is because some dog owners give ALL dog owners a bad name. So easier to have no dogs than a rule that states 'well trained dogs/ respectful owners only'.

Alicewond · 28/08/2019 02:43

On leads no, off leads yes. My pup is on a lead and we only allow him to greet people who want to. Bonding with pets is something positive for many people. But we also always clear any mess and keep him away from anyone who doesn’t want to pet him

HarryElephante · 28/08/2019 02:45

Agree. Dog owners do my head in.

Dogs should have their own area of the park, away from me and my children.

I always had dogs growing up and love them. But a lot of people who own them are just fucking clueless.

Alicewond · 28/08/2019 03:01

@HarryElephante surely your complaint is only about some dog owners then? My dog is always on leash and approaches people, adult or children, at their wish. I hold him back unless they indicate otherwise. Does that mean I’m not allowed in your ideal park? Like most other responsible dog owners?

Butchyrestingface · 28/08/2019 05:57

Did OP ever return to her own thread? Confused