AIBU to think dogs should be banned from parks?

[Allthebiscuits]

They're everywhere, crapping, barking, smelling one another's arses and fighting. Then there are those jumpy ones trying to get a lick of a child's face before bounding off to piss up the nearest tree. Not everyone likes dogs and they spoil the park for kids. I'd love to see them allocated their own area away from the rest of the park where like minded dog owners can all hangout together picking up their pet's turds and convincing each other that "he's usually so gentle". AIBU??

Horses are used as pets for humans to ride, bit that's ok because? I don't fancy stepping in horse poo on my way to school (has happened!)

they don’t need to get rid of it in woods, it nourishes the plants, ffs.

That's fair enough, but they should get rid of it in residential areas where people are walking.

ODFOD

This says it all really.

So what if children are human? Some people prefer dogs to humans

Oddly enough the more humans I meet and the more dog threads I read......the more I feel this way.

I don’t have a dog (would love one but 4 cats and two toddlers so wouldn’t be right or fair for us to get one just yet) and I’ve been bitten by two dogs in the course of my life, two, out of the several (maybe into the hundreds now) lovely dogs that I have met throughout the course of my life.

As ever it is the irresponsible few causing issues for those who love, care for and train their dogs. YADBU @OP we as a species domesticated dogs, we altered the natural world and imposed upon the animals in this world our rules and regulations - so to put it more succinctly DFOD.

Yeah, it's quite bizarre how we are willing to put down a dangerous dog that bites a child but not a man who rapes and kills one.

Sorry, that was a bit of a weird brain leap from "the more humans I meet... The more I feel this way"

@marshallmathers I don't think they should be killed. I do think we need to start thinking about how this human activity impacts on both other humans and the natural world though and how we can best minimise that, without wibbling on about speciesism and disablism and other frankly incoherent and non related concepts.

without wibbling on about speciesism and disablism and other frankly incoherent and non related concepts. I stand by those points, I don't much care if you find them "relevent" or not, and actually I find your use of "wibbling on" rude.

The point about rationality being a disabelist concept to use in defining humans as more important than other animals is hardly incoherent, whether or not you find it relevent.

It's not about animals. It's about humans. Specifically, humans who have pets and how to minimise the effects of their activity. Said effects are: environmental damage, waste, environmental impact of meat production, damage to crops and livestock and injury to other humans.

Keep the dogs, lose the kids.

It's not about animals. It's about humans. Specifically, humans who have pets and how to minimise the effects of their activity. Said effects are: environmental damage, waste, environmental impact of meat production, damage to crops and livestock and injury to other humans

All if the listed are indeed problems but they are all caused by humans. Blaming dogs and other pets for the environmental crisis is very odd.

Dog ownership should be far more regulated .
< moves up couch to make room for a labrador >
Knobheads who own dogs annoy everyone.
I tend to use parks quite early , say 6-7 am. No kids about then, or indeed anyone else apart from other dog owners.

Do you mean play parks for children? Then absolutely you are right, they should be banned. All the local play parks here have fences and dogs are banned. Most people stick to this. Or do you mean bigger open green spaces? Then I don’t think they should be banned. The spaces are for everyone to use.

The majority of dogs and their owners are great. Unfortunately it’s the minority that ruin it for the rest.

Yanbu

I'm not 'blaming' dogs. I'm blaming pet owners. On a thread about pet owners. If people didn't own dogs, there wouldn't even be any dogs in the UK. As I said, it's not about animals per se.

Although, on the subject of animals, why does people's desire to own pet cats supercede the rights of the two and a half million songbirds killed by them in the UK alone every year? Why do the rights of dog owners override the rights of ducks, swans, geese and other ground nesting birds to live unmolested? Why is there an expectation that children have to learn to interact safely with a dangerous animal introduced artificially into an environment it doesn't naturally belong in just because some plum wants it to be there? And why do we look at all of this and categorise it as a benign activity?

I always feel sorry for dogs in cities

It would greatly increase my enjoyment of parks if we banned children and encouraged more dogs.

YABU, if there were no dogs in the park then my DS would have nothing to point out to me!

I do too, Vulpine. Trit-trotting along paving stones and tarmac. No place for an animal.

Once the kids are back in school our local park will only be used by dogwalkers like it is now before 9am and after 6pm. How long would it take for the local council to realise the space isn't being used and instead sell it off to developers for more houses? In effect the dogwalkers using it year round keeps it open for the kids to use it for a few weeks every year.
There is very rarely any dog mess on the park because the majority of people pick up but during the summer it's a disgrace with dirty nappies, bottles, cans, food wrappers etc so much so that the council send in litter pickers just for the summer months.

do too, Vulpine. Trit-trotting along paving stones and tarmac. No place for an animal.

As if places that aren't cities don't have tarmac or pavements? How do you suppose people who don't live in cities walk them to the green spaces to exercise if not on pavement and tarmac? As I said I don't own a dog, biut live close to about 5/6 big green spaces suitable for dog walking in London, all within half hour walk.

Like I get you don't like dogs as pets full-stop, but singling out cities for having dogs walked anywhere other than somewhere green is weird. Not many people live right next to a load of fields.

Only if you ban litter dropping, drug smoking, noisy and entitled parents/children too.