Not one thread on Prince Andrew...WTF

[Tucobenedicto]

Why are we all sweeping this under the carpet...if it was a footballer...a pop star or a tv personality then it would be major news....The BBC has virtually ignored what has happened....whether he is guilty or not..his associate is most definitely....feel so sorry for these young girls

Again, another brilliant article that spears Andrew.

It is insulting isn't it. He's so arrogant.

Lexner apparently just gave Ep his amazing town house in New York and his dB brought flats or something off Lexner. Its almost as if he had something on him or they were in business together.

This is a brilliant piece

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/23/prince-andrew-appalled-epstein-royal-wedding

I've always thought him deeply unpleasant and up himself.

I really think the monarchy should be abolished when Betty Battenberg goes. The only one I have a tiny bit of time for is Princess Anne and her children, and that's mostly because they don't take the piss when it comes to private jets and all that.

Gobbolinocat Sometimes the Australian press really get to the heart of the matter. I often look at their press when something's going on!

Apparently PA feels he can't go to the US for fear of getting caught up in all of this. He is very peed off. Oh deary me.

I don't think anyone is falling for the disingenuous 'I had no idea' bollocks.

That's a non-starter given the pics of him strolling in the park with Epstein after Epstein came out of prison.

I read that rosette and it made me feel more cross, he has no sympathy for these women and girls it's very clear. He just wants to go back to the states.

His statement is ridiculous. It also shows a complete lack of awareness of how the mood has shifted since Saville and Me Too.

People aren’t going to be deflected by a denial with more holes than a string vest just because he is royal.

'I am eager to clarify the facts to avoid further speculation'. In other words, will you just STOP IT, I'm not gonna tell you again

'I have said previously that it was a mistake and an error to see him after his release in 2010'
Translated... Why won't you listen to me, I've apologised already.

'I was mistaken to think that what I thought I knew of him, was evidently not the real person, given what we know now'.
Translated to... I knew he had been in prison for sex with underage girls but c'mon it isn't that bad and he's my fwend and despite being told not to be fwends with him anymore, I'm loyal to my fwends and I'll jolly well do what I want.

PA is going to be thrown to the dogs as a certain President is doing his best to deflect anything which links him to Epstein.
PA is also the one who publicly announced his daughter was going to go to a certain Swiss school - only to have to change his plans quickly when the Headmaster was charged with Child abuse.

The Queen has not always got things right (Diana's death), but at present had no one who could advise her outside of the bubble, unfortunately. She is a lot better than our top politicians on the whole, but that really isn't saying much.

Rousette

The woman filmed leaving Epstein’s mansion in 2010, and being waved to by Andrew, is Katherine Keating. She is now aged 37.

Another friend of Ep, art friend has described Roberts as a, 'trollop'.

However his friend, an art student who confided to him one day what Ep did to her and her sister.... Was apparently awful and he distanced himself from Ep describing him as ill, sick.

So I feel it's a Rotherham situation again, trollops tarts, asking for it.

LakieLady thanks for the Guardian link, that article is brilliant.

PA clearly does not give a fuck given he was pictured with JE after his 2008 conviction. Disgusting behaviour.

Hands up anyone that would continue to be friends with a convicted paedophile?

No? That would repulse and revile just about everyone wouldn't it?

So, why would PA doggedly continue any relationship with JE. Unless perhaps JE had something PA wanted to remain secret?

What's the connection with Max Clifford? Is there any speculation that his death in custody was anything more than a natural heart attack?

'I did not have sexual relations with That Woman'.

Hmm. Somehow I think we've heard denials very similar to this, in the not-too-distant past, by someone else who was rumoured to have had links with Epstein.

Grubby. And perhaps there are influences in the US that are even more globally powerful than that of the British 'Royal' family, and who are more than happy for an inconsequential little weasel like Andrew to be thrown under the bus as a diversion.

Andrew will probably run away and hide overseas on an indefinite basis, more's the pity. Because it would be good to see every single person with involvement in this ring called to account for it. That includes those in the US powerhouses, as well as those of the UK.

Ghislaine Maxwell better watch out. She's on fast track to becoming Fall Guy number 2, and will probably take the rap for Andrew as well as herself.

Now Ep is dead I think many more will have the courage to speak out. Who knows what else will come out.

He told Roberts he needed to know sexual proclivity as knowledge was power. I want know more about this strange relationship with v secret owner.

Re Andrew. The other effect of his dogged support of Ep was to give him credibility even after prison.
He should have been shunned but as people who attended the party thrown for Andy said... It meant more to new York socialites to be at same party as Andrew than revulsion to be at same party as Ep.
Andrew helped him socially.

Andrew helped him socially
And
Ep helped Fergie financially

“After several days of newspaper reports on the Epstein connection in spring 2011, Prince Andrew was hit with a further blow when Sarah Ferguson admitted having accepted £15,000 from Epstein, to help pay off her debts.”
Prince Andrew's links to Jeffrey Epstein www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49411215

I remember Andrew being described as 'a man with a fat bottom who laughs at his own jokes' An arrogant fool who no one ever said no to.

His murky business dealings are bad but this is beyond horrific. He will probably get away with it. The rich are different from us.

Julian alessi a handyman, 11 years service for Ep said pa frequently stayed, palm beech I think, had massages in special area only reserved for special guests and there were frequently topless girls walking around.

@beanaseireann

Have a look at the thread "The Knives are Out for the Royal Family"
TBF a huge part of that thread is laying to Meghan for having the audacity to marry into the royal family, give birth privately etc etc...

@MoaningMinnie1

I saw that picture and they just looked like two adult people who were friendly, I don't get what the fuss is about
You must be looking at different picture the girl he’s with looks around 15 or 16, I know she’s older but she is not “enjoying” his company as she testified that she was forced to have sex with men by Epstein and Maxwell.

That is so grim.

Trump and the Clintons have been involved with Epstein too. Trump is of course playing it down.

It's amazing the power people like him exercise.

Moaning you're right it's bloody grim

@recrudescence

I am talking about the very young girl who looks about 14 who went back into Epstein's mansion. Not the 37 year old, I knew who she was.

Daily Mail is still on the subject.
Andy and Mandy.