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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Derbee · 24/08/2019 13:45

I don’t understand why she would need to stay for the weekend before a course. A normal person up early on Monday and travel, or stay the night at yours/a hotel on Sunday night only before a Monday course.

As long as you and your DH are happy I guess

DartmoorDoughnut · 24/08/2019 13:51

Well done OP Flowers

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 24/08/2019 13:51

@Derbee she doesn't need to, she wants to. She doesn't like being where she lives now

OP posts:
SavingSpaces2019 · 24/08/2019 14:03

I've never asked her to help around the house, but im sure she would have if i had
You still don't get it do you?
A DECENT friend, who KNOWS they are practically living in your house and creating work (like they do in their own bloody house) would NOT wait to be 'asked'.
At the very least they would be picking/cleaning up after themselves - like they do in their own home.
She has willfully CHOSEN to treat your home like a free hotel.
Utterly inconsiderate, selfish and self absorbed.

She doesn't like being where she lives now
How is that YOUR problem?
What the fuck has SHE been doing to sort that out for the last 2 years? (Apart from using and leeching off you)

You are NOT responsible for her in any way, shape or form.

NoSquirrels · 24/08/2019 14:07

Maybe this will give her the push she needs to sort out moving back, if she’s miserable at the other place? Two years is a long enough time to have got over homesickness if she was going to settle, so perhaps she needs to start applying for jobs back home. Anyway, not your concern or problem to fix- you have plenty on your plate!

Derbee · 24/08/2019 14:16

She’s over reliant on you. You’re heavily pregnant, you’ve said you can’t put her up for the duration of her course, so she’s coming to stay the weekend before her course because she wants to be with you and doesn’t like where she lives?

I’m not saying she’s a CF, but she’s overstepping boundaries and is far more reliant on someone than a reasonable and capable adult should be. Like I said, if you and DH are happy, that’s fine. But I don’t think you’ll ever be in a position where she’s not relying on you.

TryTry123 · 24/08/2019 14:18

Rescind the invitation today and then put your feet up.

Beesandcheese · 24/08/2019 14:19

Just tell her it's too much with your pregNancy or imminent baby bonding time.

BlueBirdGreenFence · 24/08/2019 14:20

How did she take it OP?

leomama81 · 24/08/2019 14:24

Well done OP good message.

I do agree with others, she may be very lovely and not saying she is in general a CF, but she is being with this a bit. Anyone that is really thinking about you and your needs just doesn't suggest they come and stay for almost three weeks in their friend's final month of pregnancy, they just don't.

From your OP and subsequent posts, I do get the sense you are a bit of a people-pleaser and give a lot more than you get back. That is in many ways a lovely characteristic, but be careful you don't get taken advantage of by people who are a bit oblivious. You can say no, it is not bad or selfish of you.

When you wrote you were half hoping to get a bashing to push you into doing the right thing, did you think the right thing was saying yes to her? If so, that does suggest you really struggle to put your own needs first, ever, and you may need to work on finding a bit more balance there before you end up too strung out helping everyone else put!

Motoko · 24/08/2019 14:52

So she's staying this weekend? You said her course starts next week?

Your husband's friends don't stay 1-3 days every month though, do they?
And although he was willing to let her stay for a week, he's only doing it to keep you happy. He doesn't actually want her to stay.
This situation alone wouldn't break a marriage, but it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back, if you're already having problems, which you are.

I don't know why you offered a compromise, it was unnecessary, but you've done it now, so at least she'll be there to help your husband move the furniture around.

I do agree with pps, that she may not be a CF, but a good friend wouldn't need to be asked to help out, especially if they're staying as much as she was. She could see how busy you were, wrangling babies and toddlers and work, it should have been a no-brainer that you could do with some help.

Her not liking where she lives, really is not your problem. She's had plenty of time to do something about it.

Anyway, once you've moved things around so she can't stay as often, you can get back to having a normal friendship with her, and concentrate on your family.

I wish you and your husband the best. If you can get through the problems together, as a team, you'll come out the other side much stronger.

SunniDay · 24/08/2019 14:57

Hi OP,
I have seen that you have offered your friend a few days stay as a compromise. I hope that works out well.

Why not tell her that you are struggling with too much to do with your pregnancy/the children and would really appreciate it if instead of being a traditional “guest” she could muck in and take turns to shop/cook/clean up and perhaps even babysit (if you are comfortable with this) allowing you and your husband a meal out/cinema trip whatever before the new baby comes.

beanaseireann · 24/08/2019 15:29

You sound so lovely and kind,WishingIlivedonanisland.
Wishing you all the best with your pregnancy and your marriage.

Figgygal · 24/08/2019 15:33

Great message op
She can look into air bnb if she's still keen to come back regularly

greenwaterbottle · 24/08/2019 17:27

Although I would make a big pile of stuff in or outside her room that's obviously intended to go in it, just so she doesn't get comfy

Drum2018 · 24/08/2019 17:56

She doesn't like being where she lives now

Then that's up to her to change, not for you or anyone else to take any responsibility for.

I wonder if she'll be interested in staying for the weekend as you've asked her to help rejig the rooms. You may find she'll have quickly sorted an alternative Hmm

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/08/2019 19:09

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

"Dear Friend,

Really sorry but no, we can't accommodate you this time. Lots going on which I'll tell you about when we next catch up but it isn't going to be possible for the time you need. Hope you can get something organised. Good luck with the course!"

MrsDesireeCarthorse · 24/08/2019 19:16

I would not behave the way she has to my own sisters and we are close. Your husband's friends do not stay that often or keep their stuff in your house. To me she sounds a total user, wittingly or not.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/08/2019 19:23

Missed your update, your response was perfect!

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 24/08/2019 19:24

Well done, Wishing. Your message was perfect IMO. Very clear boundaries but done with kindness and inviting her for the weekend before the course is a nice compromise. If she gets the hump (which I don't think she will from what you've said) it'll only be defensiveness because part of her knows you've a lot going on and she's been too reliant on you.

Zoflorabore · 24/08/2019 19:51

I think your friend's response will speak volumes op.

You sound absolutely lovely. Your friend has had 2 years of coming and going as she pleases, tagging along on family outings etc and has possibly contributed to you and your husband needing marriage guidance.

You have sent the message. Well done! You must feel like a huge weight has been lifted. Your friend doesn't have a partner/children yet ( and may never do of course ) but assuming that she wouldn't reciprocate if she did? You have been an amazing friend but it's now time to put yourself, your children and your husband first.

Good luck with the new baby Bear

Sparklypurpleunicornsaremyfav · 24/08/2019 20:19

I'm sooo intrigued by your house, bedrooms upstairs past main bedroom, pull out couch on the landing... I really want to know more!!! 😂 😂 😂
Anyway, well done on the text and I hope she's OK with you

Motoko · 24/08/2019 20:48

Has she replied yet?

northernlites · 24/08/2019 20:53

Obligatory mumsnet diagram required I think 🤔 😂

Toneitdown · 25/08/2019 07:03

Great response OP. Hopefully she comes for the weekend and you have a nice catch up with her and she helps out with a few things. And then you say goodbye to the spare room and never have to worry about this again!

We've had similar problems with having a lovely spare room. We live in a popular holiday destination in a tropical country and have always vowed to keep a comfy spare room for when our parents come to visit and see the kids. We are inundated with CF mates who are always asking to stay. Because it's so far they always want to stay for weeks on end, never offer any money, always want lifts everywhere and don't clean up after themselves.

We're considering pretending we've turned the room into a yoga studio lol Grin

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