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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

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Cassilis · 25/08/2019 07:07

@Toneitdown I hope you tell them no?!

Toneitdown · 25/08/2019 07:11

@Cassilis

Initially we said yes to people because we didn't know what it would be like. That was pre DC. Once I fell pregnant with our first we said a very firm no to most requests. I'm not as nice as OP seems to be, lol Grin

MsTSwift · 25/08/2019 07:44

She is over reliant on you isn’t she? You need to put better boundaries in place which you are doing. This thread gave me chills tbh I would absolutely hate this - a needy anxious person drifting round my home especially at your stage with baby toddlers etc but even without that - sorry for her and all that but bloody nightmare.

OoohRhubarbLetsGo · 25/08/2019 08:37

I think your text struck exactly the right tone- you’ve centred the needs of your children in the message, rather than making it personal about your friend, and being unable to accommodate her anymore. It’s also clearly permanent.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 25/08/2019 09:08

Has your friend replied to your message yet @WishingILivedOnAnIsland ?

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 10:12

@Sparklypurpleunicornsaremyfav @northernlites I love a mumsnet diagram and I was stuck on hold just now so here you go!

It looks big but the rooms are small. You can see how we've ended up with a lot of houseguests- its set out like a rooming house with lots of bedrooms but just one living space. Makes it hard to say no to people if they are aware of how many bedrooms there are.

We hardly notice other houseguests because they are out & about, or sleeping on the top floor. We barely see them- it's great! I thought that's what this friend would do as well but- live & learn!

For revoking an open invitation to stay?
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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 10:19

@Toneitdown gosh we've had some really rude people as well! Someone I used to work with stayed and expected to be collected from & dropped to the airport, driven to meet other friends while I was on maternity leave with a newborn, we went to lunch where she ordered $$$ cocktails and then made no move to contribute to the bill when it came. The only gesture of gratitude we received was her scribbling 'thanks :)' on the guest room wifi instructions!!

She asked to stay again a few months later along with her boyfriend and sister and we said we would be out of town. She texted back 'that's fine, just leave me a key under the mat.' Hmm

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CuriousMama · 25/08/2019 10:29

Wishing you are the kindest of people. I hope it gets resolved without to much stress on you Flowers

Ayemama · 25/08/2019 11:00

I'm so glad you've said no.
A proper friend wouldn't wait to be asked for help. If they come and stay with you then they should automatically help with cleaning up, dishes and that, possibly even childcare to give you and DH some alone time if they are a regular visitor.
It's what I've done for friends in the past and I think it's fairly usual behaviour.
It will be interesting to see what her response is though.

We had a relative of DH stay once and he ate all the food including the food I'd made especially for DD ( she's dairy free) and would walk into the living room and try to turn off DD's cartoons to watch some 15/18 rated movie and just patronisingly day I must be hormonal when I told him it wasn't ok. Left his washing in a pile in the bathroom and expected it done.
He even expected me to wake the kids up one night to put them in the car and drive him to the local village shop to get cigarettes after I told him I wouldn't leave them in the house alone.
Needless to say he has never been allowed back.

TalkToMeAboutSocialWorkPlease · 25/08/2019 11:17

OP, has she responded to your text yet?

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 11:58

@TalkToMeAboutSocialWorkPlease She arrived this morning. She is even more stress-filled than the last visit Sad and keeps going on & on about how hard the course is going to be. She didn't have to sign up for it! Confused

We're attending a neighbour's toddler's birthday party today and when she made a move to tag along I told her I didn't feel comfortable bringing an extra to someone else's house.

I feel for her but I'm really relieved we didn't agree to the full 20 days. I couldn't have coped with her in this headspace.

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Nanny0gg · 25/08/2019 12:01

Hope she plans to leave after the weekend...

rookiemere · 25/08/2019 12:02

Has she said where she is going to stay?

greenwaterbottle · 25/08/2019 12:03

Has she got other plans

CallmeAngelina · 25/08/2019 12:15

OP, you do know that she has no intention of moving elsewhere for the duration, don't you?
Have you got a speech rehearsed, for when she cries informs you that she has nowhere else to go?

GrandmaSteglitszch · 25/08/2019 12:23

Does your DH know how much you don't want her to stay on?
He needs to be backing you up and letting her know that you have enough to cope with right now, if there's the slightest hint she might try to stay on.

Is she helping to move furniture etc?

TalkToMeAboutSocialWorkPlease · 25/08/2019 12:24

Oh dear! Grin

Lulualla · 25/08/2019 12:27

Why would she invite herself to someone else's house for someone else's toddler? I can't believe she needed to be told she couldn't come.

ShippingNews · 25/08/2019 12:30

This weekend is the thin end of the wedge - she is in your house now and I'm guessing that she'll have a sob story ready at the end of the weekend. Be prepared !

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 12:30

In her text she said she'd ask some mutual friends if she could stay there.

I told her I've listed the guest room bed online to be collected Sunday so 🤷‍♀️

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lawnmowingsucks · 25/08/2019 12:31

You've done the right thing @WishingILivedOnAnIsland

Fwiw I think she is unknowingly a CF and I agree with @SavingSpaces2019

GrandmaSteglitszch · 25/08/2019 12:33

So the spare bed goes today?
I'm sure she'll be fine on a blow-up bed on the landing.

It doesn't matter what other plans she has - she can't stay at yours.

envelopeofpubes · 25/08/2019 12:37

If she’s gone on Sunday evening I will eat my hat!!

ddl1 · 25/08/2019 12:37

Just tell her that as you are just about to have a baby, it's unfortunately not a good time for any guests right now! That's a pretty good reason after all, and she should understand it. Avoid saying anything even mildly critical of her behaviour as a guest. But she would be U to expect you to be just as hospitable when on the point of giving birth, or with a new baby, as at other times.

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 12:38

@Lulualla It actually probably would have been fine to bring her, its a casual 'bring the family, bring a plate' stand in the garden around the sandpit type thing. But I wanted the family time/breathing space.

There's a lot to do where we live. Now I'm thinking about it I wonder if it's the anxiety that stops her from heading out more and making the most of her time.

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