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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
EdtheBear · 30/08/2019 07:16

The Op needs to change the rooms around to suit her expanding family not just get rid of CFer.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 30/08/2019 07:24

Good luck today OP! Keep that righteous anger and get rid!

piefacedClique · 30/08/2019 07:25

So! What time is the locksmith coming this morning!

EdtheBear · 30/08/2019 07:26

I'm wondering about your conversation with MF2 where she stated that she and MF3 had 'decided' that CFF....

It was MF1 & MF2 it was MF3 who made the offer. MF1 & MF2 appear not to know of MF3s offer.
Just to clear that up.

PerkyPomPoms · 30/08/2019 07:44

That cheeky cow! Kick her off to MF3!

ZombieNut · 30/08/2019 07:51

Thanks @edthebear. I wondered had I got my numerals wrong when a 3 appeared! So MF1 and MF2 need not have been involved at all once they had declined the request from CFF to host her.

I should not try to read and post the second I wake up on the morning. Just hoping OP gets rid of this woman today so she can enjoy a quiet weekend with her family.

Cary2012 · 30/08/2019 08:08

OP, I've read all the thread, and the final revelation, that your "lovely, kind friend" was offered alternative accommodation, comes as no surprise at all. I wish it did. She's an A grade user love, and you're too sweet and nice to see it. You must be hurt, I know I would be. Of course she doesn't want to stay at the alternative place: too far out, no company, no food and drink provided when she walks through the door, and God forbid, a dog that might need her attention and care. This friend-child can't look after herself, a goldfish to watch over would defeat her. Stop with the excuses, the bed dismantling ideas and you don't need a locksmith. You just need to tell her to go. I wouldn't faff around with taking her to dinner, because that is indulging her. She has had too much of that already. I would let her know that you know about the other offer and tell her that you're surprised and hurt, given your current situation, that she didn't take it. Then I would tell her to go there, because you want her to go so you can nest. No excuses, no sorting her stuff, no running around anymore. Yes, she's a baby, but by God, hasn't she been encouraged to be one? Just tell her, please. You won't find it easy, but the last week has been crazy, and could have been avoided. You're not responsible for her. End of. In the nicest possible way, get your priorities straight.

Witchinaditch · 30/08/2019 08:20

Wow this is shocking, you need to tell your houseguest that MF3 has offered to have you for the duration. I would frame it as this “great news MF3 said she can have you for the rest of your stay! All your problems are solved! What a brilliant outcome’” then go for dinner tonight drive there so you can make sure all stuff is out of her room, I’d change the locks and not ask for her key back- it’s a shame you sound so kind and so willing to help people and you have been taken advantage of which has now made you not want to host anyone! I’d be annoyed at all my friends who weren’t taking into consideration how pregnant you are that’s just so selfish of them the last trimester is so exhausting!

WinterHare · 30/08/2019 08:21

I decided to suggest a dinner out with our friendship group for Friday night at a restaurant near LF’s course. (Basically to ensure she’d go straight from course-restaurant- MF’s house without returning to mine.)

This speaks volumes! You're still trying to manage and influence her behaviour and actions when she is responsible for her own choices, as you are for yours.

Be direct. Don't facilitate things like this, she's an adult and I think being blunt is the only way she will understand.

billy1966 · 30/08/2019 08:22

No surprise here at all I'm afraid.

She has shown you exactly who she was when she disregarded your request that she not stay.

OP, she couldn't care less about the lot of you.

Vulnerable my arse🙄

sonjadog · 30/08/2019 08:26

Why would the OP go to the bother and expense of changing the locks? She can just ask for the key back.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 30/08/2019 08:26

Ok, knowing what you do now @WishingILivedOnAnIsland - will you be getting your key back from CF friend who has obviously been taking you for a mug??
Will you be telling her not asking her to get her stuff out of your shed or you'll throw it out???

Please tell us that these revelations have given you some more gumption to get this CF out of your home and her stuff out of your shed!

WhatchaMaCalllit · 30/08/2019 08:27

@sonjadog - probably because it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that the CF friend who has clearly overstepped and overstayed her welcome might have made a copy of the key at some point, in case she lost it like?

Lulualla · 30/08/2019 08:28

She isn't your friend. At least, not the sort of friend she should be. She had a perfectly acceptable offer of a place to stay but forced herself onto you. You told her before she even arrived that she couldn't stay, but she dragged out, had your other 2 friends pester you and guilt you, pretended she had nowhere to go, completely ignored your needs whilst you're bloody 8 months pregnant and exhausted and you and your husband are having marital troubles. She's a selfish little cow.

sonjadog · 30/08/2019 08:32

Maybe not beyond the realms of possibility but a huge dramatic leap.

aliolilover · 30/08/2019 08:37

Oh dear I just read the whole thread for the first time!
Get her out! Your 'friends' are appalling

1Wildheartsease · 30/08/2019 09:03

Wishing you a lovely peaceful eve and a 'friendless ' weekend Smile

LannieDuck · 30/08/2019 09:07

Well that makes it really easy for you since you know now that she has somewhere to go.

Has she gone to her course yet today? Get into the room, strip the bed, move all her things into the hall and get your DH to move some of the furniture around as soon as he's home.

I would also msg her to 'remind' her that you're changing the rooms around today, and you understand she's going to MP3's place this evening?

leomama81 · 30/08/2019 09:19

Oh my goodness, this is just shocking.

Do not let her use depression or anxiety as an excuse for this behaviour OP, that is an insult to everyone with depression and anxiety! I have struggled with it for 20 years and it does not make you behave like this.

This is a truly selfish, manipulative person, nothing more.

I am fuming on your behalf, and would personally struggle to stay friends with someone after this. She really has shown she doesn't give a flying fuck about you or your unborn child, I'm afraid to say. Please use this anger to kick her out on her arse and take it easy for the remaining weeks of your pregnancy.

ThanksThanks

ChuckleBuckles · 30/08/2019 09:23

I hope she has gone OP and that you have your feet up with a nice cuppa to relax. You deserve better friends that treat you with kindness.

woodymiller · 30/08/2019 09:31

I am appalled on your behalf. CF friend would be coming back from her course to find all her belongings on the doorstep and the locks changed if it was me. I think I'd use the money DH proposed for a b&b for her on me & my family and have a night or 2 away, phones off, to avoid the drama

Grambler · 30/08/2019 09:33

Well fuckaduck. I really hope for her sake she left with all her stuff - and without your key - this morning. Otherwise I can see you lining up entire crockery cupboard to throw at her this evening.

RandomMess · 30/08/2019 09:44

I've been following this thread off and on, just absolutely AngryAngryAngryAngryAngry on your behalf about your LF lying!!!

She could have come for dinner a couple of nights and caught up with other MF.

Berthatydfil · 30/08/2019 09:44

Wow “lovely” friend is anything but lovely. I wonder if she had told your MF about the offer to stay from your other friend? I doubt it.
I hope you tell CFF to sling her hook today, that you know all about the other offer to stay that she received and dose to ignore and on that basis she is not welcome to stay now nor in the future.

Berthatydfil · 30/08/2019 09:47

Chose to ignore

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