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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Frownette · 30/08/2019 01:43

God the woman is horrible

WhenPushComesToShove · 30/08/2019 01:47

Just been reading thread and I'm fuming on your behalf. What an amazingly CF she is. Time for some straight talking. You've tried to be nice about but now I think something like 'I'm sorry but you need to leave. It's difficult for me to say but I'm finding this all too much and I need my space (and my key back). Sorry she's suffering (not helping herself) but you have to look after yourself as quite clearly no one else is going to excepting DH by the sound of it. Best of luck. I shall watch and hope to see that you have finally managed to remove 'The Limpet'

Ilady · 30/08/2019 02:10

She is a CF nightmare. Why did she think it was a good idea to stay with an 8 month pregnant friend with a toddler? She is an adult doing a course for work. Any courses that are work related normally include work paying an allowance for accommodation. So she is probably making money on the deal. She is putting you under pressure and stress that you don't want or need being 8 months pregnant. Then you find out she got an offer to stay off another friend (who lives in a less nice area, with a dog and who works long hours) but turned it down. At this stage I would tell her that she has to leave as your not feeling great. I would tell her to bring all the stuff she owns with her as you need the room. Tell her you want your key back as well. In fact I would get the locks changed on your front door in case she decides to come again. She is not a friend but a total user so let her fuck off after this behaviour.

ValerianV · 30/08/2019 02:19

People never fail to amaze me. How can she even feel comfortable being there knowing she is overstaying her welcome, normal people would be out the door like a shot.

Italiangreyhound · 30/08/2019 02:26

OP look after yourself and put yourself first. Thanks You are pregnant, a mum to a toddler and in marriage counselling. In your opening post you said "She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to." But there are 100 reasons not to have someone drain you.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 30/08/2019 02:33

I understand why you were mad at your mutual friends. What you, and all reasonable people, understood was a generous offer, they have decided is an entitlement. They have no respect for you your home, your time, your health. All they see is 'person x isn't using something so I'll have it'
It's none of their fucking business what you do with your own home and the absolute gall to be entitled instead of profusely thankful for your kindness. Unbelievable. This is the thanks you get.

If these women were true friends, you wouldn't have to ask or hint or message. They'd be organising meals for you and helping you clean and asking if you need help with your toddlers so you can nap.

Instead, they are circling you when you're vulnerable, like vultures. Nasty pieces of work. I'm so angry for you! How dare they.

Italiangreyhound · 30/08/2019 02:38

OP I did not read all the replies, only the start, seems things have developed a lot. But anyway, look after you. Thanks

JammyGem · 30/08/2019 02:53

And what reason has she given for turning down that friend's offer, knowing that she would be putting you under stress?

Just wash your hands of her.

Beautiful3 · 30/08/2019 02:56

Has she gone yet?

Beautiful3 · 30/08/2019 04:41

Speechless! She had else where to go?!

WhoKnewBeefStew · 30/08/2019 05:37

Hope it's all worked out op

NoSquirrels · 30/08/2019 05:47

While calling / texting around the group trying to set that up I find out that Actually Lovely MF3 offered last week to host Houseguest for the duration. MF3 is working insanely long hours at the moment and has a dog she feels guilty about leaving so was apparently disappointed not to have LF stay with her and provide company for the dog at night.

Oh bloody hell. That’s shockingly awful. Really, really bad. Sorry, OP.

KTheGrey · 30/08/2019 05:53

So she turned down an offer from somebody else and then she went to MF1 and talked about how she's stressed because her accommodation is up in the air and MF1 duly called you up to relay the message and manipulate you into having her for the duration. That clarifies what's going on rather. She's a cuckoo. So dinner all together is a super idea, because you have the chance to discuss it really openly and have it all out, and MF1 is more of a mug and LF really quite manipulative and not so lovely at all.

Daisy38 · 30/08/2019 06:19

I think you’ve been more than generous with her and in light of what you’ve just discovered, she has well and truly over stayed her time with you.

Might be worth pointing out to her that 2 years in another place is more than enough time to have made up her mind about living there. Going backwards and forwards has had a big impact on you and others around about for too long and either she needs to change job and move back to your town and find a place of her own where she isn’t dependent on so many other people, or she commits to where she is now and moves medical appointments etc there and spends more of her time there and gets to know the place properly so she can develop a life of her own there.

I hope by the end of the day she is gone and you and DH can start properly preparing for the arrival of your baby.

ZombieNut · 30/08/2019 06:27

Hi OP, hoping you get resolution to this horrible situation today. I was going to post earlier suggesting your husband had a word along the lines of 'are you still here? I thought you were only staying for 2 nights!' Or something similar. Things moved on quickly and you were kind of stuck until today.

I'm wondering about your conversation with MF2 where she stated that she and MF3 had 'decided' that CFF would be more comfortable staying in your home and presented it as final that neither of them would host. It seems now that MF2 decided that all on her own! She seems to be the one calling the shots with all of you!

I understand that you really do like your CFF, want to help her, and certainly don't want to appear unkind as it is obviously not in your nature, from what you have posted here. Good luck today getting her out of your home, hopefully with your friendship intact. However, if the friendship suffers that will be her doing not yours. You've done more than enough to keep things friendly. She has chosen to take advantage of your lovely nature in the knowledge that she can push and push to get her own way.

Wishing you and your family the best of luck together and with your new baby when he or she makes an appearance!

GoFiguire · 30/08/2019 06:30

How is the atmosphere this morning? ❄️ ❄️ ?

PersonaNonGarter · 30/08/2019 06:36

This is one of those ‘turn away from pre-baby friends’ moments. Sad, but there’s no going back.

SunshineCake · 30/08/2019 06:44

Not so innocent or vulnerable now Angry.

olympicsrock · 30/08/2019 06:46

Good luck today!

Bibijayne · 30/08/2019 06:51

Good luck OP. I'd be very clear that she needs to give her key back and leave today. And that's it. That or I'd sort out changing the locks and leave her out of the house.

This is beyond unacceptable.

AuntieMaggie · 30/08/2019 06:59

OP I'm also 8 months pregnant, though with an older DC not a toddler and no marriage issues and there is no way I'd be putting up with this. Your friends are really selfish. You need to be looking after yourself in these last weeks and the stress of this situation won't be good for your blood pressure.

Get your DH to tell her to go. You've given her enough time and given your last update quite frankly I'd change the locks and out her stuff on the doorstep.

EdtheBear · 30/08/2019 07:01

How are you doing this morning?

I'm fumming at CFer. Wtf is she all about? She's actually pushed you and MF1&2 into very difficult positions.

I know some posters are suggesting you ditch all your friends. I don't think you should ditch them but don't be bending over backwards for them either.

Truthfully very few people would be as hospitable as you and DH have been. If I'd been in MF1 or 2 shoes I'd have been loathed to host her recognising that she's a nightmare to get rid off.

My DH is a bit more hard nosed and would have said there's a hotel down the road. Which in turn would have put me into a difficult position. How do you say to somebody, "you're not welcome at mine but you shouldn't be imposing on Wishing either"

Go to dinner enjoy a hot meal from begining to end before you have another newborn. Clear the air with friends. Get them roped into helping you move CFer and regift your house

EdtheBear · 30/08/2019 07:03

Rejig not regift

Benjispruce · 30/08/2019 07:03

Locksmith.

lavenderandthyme · 30/08/2019 07:11

Honestly I just don’t understand why you don’t sit her down, tell her enough is enough. Ask her to leave the next day and give her key back. Then change the locks. You should not be selling your bed, changing the rooms around or inconveniencing yourself in any way. I can’t summon up the stamina to read every post on this thread, but why oh why have you just not done this? Or got your OH to do it?
This is not a friend you are talking about. She is a massive user with no regard for your feelings. Please wake up.

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