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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Motoko · 28/08/2019 18:52

It's not a bad thing at all to tread lightly to value friendships and not go in heavy handed.

OP could have handled it lightly at the beginning, and not be in this position now. Telling a friend that you're sorry, but it's not convenient to have them to stay, when you are just days/weeks away from giving birth, is not being unkind.

Now, OP is going to have to be more forceful, and the whole situation will leave a bitter taste for all involved.

elessar · 28/08/2019 19:12

Berating the OP for not being forceful at the beginning is not helpful now. Yes the situation could have been avoided but the OP wanted to be kind and she trusted her friend.

That trust has been abused and she has now put her foot down. No she hasn't thrown her out on the streets - possibly at 8 months pregnant she wants to avoid a distressing, confrontational scene if she can. That's not a crime.

If the friend refuses to leave on friday then that may still arise but it also may not and that would be better for everyone.

billy1966 · 28/08/2019 19:15

@SavingSpaces2019
@Drum2018

Both posts are spot on.

Unwanted guest couldn't care less, she is beyond manipulative. Complaining to MF's about not feeling wanted. Ha! She isn't.

In this situation, it's clearly every woman for herself and the poor kind 8 month pregnant woman is being thrown under a bus by everyone.

If ever the saying " no good deed goes unpunished".

I actually agree with the poster re women being "kind". It appears to be a highway to hell. So awful that you can't be kind to someone without having to be ready at every turn, to be super direct when they then take advantage of you.

MF's have shown themselves up so badly to be telling OP how to use her home. The sheer presumptuous-ness of doing that.

The upside to this is the OP has undoubtedly learnt a life less she won't forget.

I think a lot of us women need a touch of this type of thing to happen to make sure you don't get railroaded again.

I really feel for the OP that her kindness has been so badly abused at such a busy time.

She asked her closest friend for a little consideration and she has been roundly dismissed.

Huge life lesson.

Rockylady · 28/08/2019 19:20

@derbee noted. No need to be on the attack. You need some 💐 I think. And peace, love and rockanroll. 🤒

CorBlimeyGovenor · 28/08/2019 19:36

Tell her that due to your difficulty sleeping due to being so heavily pregnant etc, you have taken over the spare room. Also, that your baby may come early. Say it's just too close to you giving birth.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/08/2019 19:40

@Derbee, your post at 17:08:53 was pretty harsh and comes over as being really unpleasant to the OP - I honestly think that it was unkind in tone and in what you said - sorry.

karenbokaren · 28/08/2019 19:46

You sound lovely op. (Unlike a lot of people on this thread.)

SunshineCake · 28/08/2019 19:51

"Good luck with the baby, OP."

"Which one?"

The one she is pregnant with, of course.

Jux · 28/08/2019 20:01

I think quite a lot of your anger at your MFs would be due to their blythe disposal of your home, not to mention the goods and services that go with it, AND forgetting your health, wellbeing and that of your dh and children; further, displaying no concern whatsoever for your late stage pg state.

You know that friends don't do that behind your back, without consultation with you.

I'd be a darn sight more pissed off with 'friends' who did that. It's time to have a chat with them about their seriously shitty attitude. Well, depends how you're feeling (exhausted I imagine). But High Indignation would be very appropriate, if not seriously pissed off.

You might enjoy being indignant at them; it seems more your sort of thing.Grin

As for Not-So-Lovely-Friend, be firm. She is not your responsibility.

LannieDuck · 28/08/2019 20:07

Will the bed dismantle? I think you should make a plan for Friday to take the bed apart, or have your DH tip it up on it's edge against the wall and start moving enough of the stuff around that the bedroom is no longer functional.

Tistheseason17 · 28/08/2019 20:15

I think you're more annoyed with the other friend as she has been able to say no to the house guest and you haven't....

notanothercrapusername · 28/08/2019 20:24

Good grief. I'm stressed just reading this!

Some of the replies are really a bit harsh. We're all women, mums etc here can't we cut a bit of slack to a heavily pregnant stressed out lady who is dealing with a 'friend' who has an almighty cheek and the hide of a rhino plus two other 'friends' who seemingly don't give a shit about her welfare?

OP, do stand firm now. She leaves Friday, no excuses, and hands your key back. And I'd turn my phone off too afterwards, those other two should be rallying around you right now not making things more difficult.

Mxyzptlk · 28/08/2019 20:31

I think quite a lot of your anger at your MFs would be due to their blythe disposal of your home, not to mention the goods and services that go with it, AND forgetting your health, wellbeing and that of your dh and children; further, displaying no concern whatsoever for your late stage pg state.

CF is doing exactly the same, worse because she has set up the whole situation.
Be angry with CF, OP.

Ohmygoodnessreally · 28/08/2019 20:35

Hope she goes tomorrow!

greenwaterbottle · 28/08/2019 20:54

Op hope you're doing ok, the thread has gone a bit awol but hope you're getting there

AloneLonelyLoner · 28/08/2019 21:33

I read this post when it originally went up, got sidetracked but just popped back in and read it all....OH MY GOD!!!

The CF must go on Friday. Must! Must! Change the locks. Put the bags out. And your friends? They need to have a serious talk to themselves. Hmm

Lemoneeza · 28/08/2019 21:39

roll on Friday

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 28/08/2019 22:33

Op has definitely followed advice, told cf and mf.

Anyone else keep reading MF as motherfuckers instead of mutual friends?
Just me? Blush

MsTSwift · 28/08/2019 22:36

What’s the cliche- with friends like these who needs enemies?!
You are very pregnant with toddlers friends should be rallying round you to help not piling on stress and extra work! I had dd2 when I had just moved to a new area and neighbors I didn’t really know offered practical help and support. And your “friends” are behaving like this? I would dump. I would rather have no friends at all than ones like this.

CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 28/08/2019 22:57

Anyone else keep reading MF as motherfuckers instead of mutual friends?
Just me?

Nope, me too 🤣🤣🤣

pollymere · 28/08/2019 22:58

Time for the toddler to have a big kid bed in their own room methinks. You will need space for the baby and you have a spare room. Once the baby is bigger you will also need to move them out too. Say that unfortunately it's now the kids bedroom so there's nowhere for them to sleep anymore. I think you originally meant one or twice a year and she's pushing your friendship. If it's a professional course her work will be paying for a hotel anyway.

dollydaydream114 · 28/08/2019 23:27

I assume she's a vulnerable young adult with no real family to fall back on.

Vulnerable young adult', my arse.

She's a grown woman attending a professional training course of her own volition. She's a not a 16-year-old leaving the care system, FFS.

cstaff · 28/08/2019 23:28

@FurnitureAndBackgammon
I've been reading it as motherfucker all day and can't help thinking how appropriate it is in this case Grin. Sorry OP but is just how my wicked mind works.

Come Friday I hope you have your house back to just you and your family. I can see from your posts that you have tried to play nice but this has obviously not paid off. Time to play hardball with these CFs.

converseandjeans · 28/08/2019 23:28

You sound like a really nice person and I can't work out why you're getting a hard time on this thread.

I do hope your friend goes by Friday. Good luck.

PapayaCoconut · 29/08/2019 06:36

I bet 95% of posters bragging about their take-no-prisoners attitude are nowhere near as tough as they make themselves out to be. A bit like all those Mumsnetters who "run their own successful business". 😅

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