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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
EdtheBear · 29/08/2019 07:41

Most bragging about their attitude would probably never have invited her to stay or store belongings in the first place.

Op has a huge heart. It's horrible that her kindness has been pushed to the limit.
DF went to MF because she has realised that she's out stayed her welcome and was expecting MF would say "come stay here". Unfortunately MF is showing a take no prisoners attitude!

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 29/08/2019 07:43

God, your houseguest has more front than Brighton! She knows that she's overstayed her welcome already; she knows that at NO POINT did you agree to her staying for the full period, yet she's still in your house with her feet up (metaphorically)!

It takes some balls to have that much confidence. I'd have been off to a B&B as soon as the other arrangements fell through, but I guess she knows when she's on to a good thing.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 29/08/2019 08:24

How are things now @WishingILivedOnAnIsland ? I do hope that DF has seen the error of her ways and for the last few days of her stay is pulling her weight?
I do think that when she goes, you will see improvements in your marriage too (and that might seem like quite a stretch but I really do feel that this has been an issue your DH may have struggled to verbalise to you as you're a genuinely nice person and want to see the good in others too but people are taking advantage of that).

Best of luck and I honestly do hope that DF does take her stuff and move out. You should try to arrange for her to collect her stuff that you're storing in your shed. You can tell her that you're going to need that space back too. Doesn't have to be this year that you have that conversation but it too must happen. She can pay for storage or throw the stuff out. Maybe say that you're doing a massive clear out of the house, top to bottom and in the shed too, and anything that hasn't been moved in 12 months is going into a skip! She'll move it fairly lively after that I'd say.

wibbletooth · 29/08/2019 08:47

Time to start mentioning that you’ve had some Brixton Hicks contractions and it has made you realise how imminent the baby’s arrival is - this is really stressing you out and you just need to be at home, alone (that includes immediate family but definitely no guests) to get rested and sort yourself out before everything kicks off.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/08/2019 09:20

Good idea wibbletooth - Wishing could tell her friend how glad she is to have her there to look after her DH and the kids if she has to go into hospital earlier - and just for now, perhaps she could take over the cooking after she comes in from her course, and perhaps do a few loads of washing and a bit of ironing

And the spare bedroom will need to be arranged for the children, so can she just sleep on the couch for the last few nights of her stay.

dustarr73 · 29/08/2019 10:39

Anyone else keep reading MF as motherfuckers instead of mutual friends?

In a Samuel L Jackson voice Grin

Mxyzptlk · 29/08/2019 10:41

What last few nights?
Tonight (Thursday) is to be her last night.
Definite.

Mxyzptlk · 29/08/2019 11:19

You know why CF is feeling unwelcome, btw?

It's because OP is going to bed (completely knackered) right after she's put the toddlers to bed - and CF has no-one to listen to her woes.
Poor CF.

DieBabySharkDie · 29/08/2019 11:24

How are things now OP? Please update us! Something about this thread has got a lot of mumsnetters (myself included!) emotionally involved and need updates and, when the time comes, closure.

I have a feeling, considering we are already on page 31, that you may need to start a 2nd thread soon to continue the updates for the fallout that will no doubt happen.

We will also need an update when you have the baby please ❤️

In all seriousness, I hope you are ok. I’m only 11wks pregnant and I wouldn’t want a guest right now for a day, let alone when I’m 8mths and for 20day! Fuck that!

You sound lovely and I would love you as a friend - not to use, like your current friends do, but to have a genuine friendship with! Sending you much love xxx

CleansUpDragonPoo · 29/08/2019 11:59

I agree with IchiNiSan (Wed 28-Aug-19 14:44:57)

Prepare one or two statements and don't deviate, but change 'your key' to 'MY key'
"You need to return MY key and leave TOMORROW (Friday) morning"
"But...."
"You need to return MY key and leave TOMORROW (Friday) morning"
"It'd be really difficult for me"
"That's unfortunate. You need to return MY key..."

Good luck, please let us know how you get on. Wishing you strength and calm..

GoFiguire · 29/08/2019 12:25

Change the locks!!!!!

LivingInLaputa · 29/08/2019 12:48

Goodness. I can totally see why you are raging at mutual friends too. Really messed up dynamics in the group I think, let’s all put upon Wishing and mollycoddle Houseguest. I can’t judge though as we have a member of our group who is very much babied because of how she acts when she doesn’t get her way (in her case it’s really more about getting attention and sympathy rather than situations like the thread but it’s very wearing)

Drum2018 · 29/08/2019 17:05

Anyone else keep reading MF as motherfuckers instead of mutual friendss

If the cap fits Grin

Really hoping she's gone tomorrow. Ask her this evening if she needs help packing up all her stuff seeing as she's leaving tomorrow and you are no longer hosting guests from then on. She has been warned. If she plays dumb you and Dh will just have to put the foot down - very firmly!

AtrociousCircumstance · 29/08/2019 17:19

How are you OP?

MaggieFS · 29/08/2019 17:26

The MF aren't CF they're just bloody rude. DF is a CF but seems to have been able to get away with it for a while. Let's see what tomorrow holds. I had to turn down a house guest from NZ, a very good friend, when I was eight months pregnant and of course she understood. It's the normal response! Stay strong OP.

DieBabySharkDie · 29/08/2019 19:53

Yep - MF keeps being read as motherfuckers here too!

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 29/08/2019 20:51

So glad I wasn't the only weirdo one reading MF as that 😆

Any update, OP?

Beautiful3 · 29/08/2019 21:24

Any updates op?

Hotterthanallheck · 29/08/2019 22:15

Wow OP I’ve read the whole thread and I am boggling at the entitlement and rudeness that all of your friends are exhibiting.

I’m not surprised you’re angry with the MFs. It must be tough dealing with marriage issues, late term pregnancy and then discovering your friends are selfish twats who don’t care about you.

Sending good vibes for you and the baby.

ktp100 · 29/08/2019 22:19

So what the mutual friend is saying is that the inconvenience of having a guest while her husband works from home trumps the inconvenience to you of having a guest whilst heavily pregnant & likely to give birth during the stay?!! Does she hear herself when she's talking?!!

ChangeItChild · 29/08/2019 22:26

OP does your due date actually fall during this woman's scheduled stay with you?

That's bonkers! If it is the case why are:

You
DH
MF
UG (Unwanted Guest)

Not putting a stop to this craziness?

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 29/08/2019 23:48

Bloody fuming.

I decided to suggest a dinner out with our friendship group for Friday night at a restaurant near LF’s course. (Basically to ensure she’d go straight from course-restaurant- MF’s house without returning to mine.)

While calling / texting around the group trying to set that up I find out that Actually Lovely MF3 offered last week to host Houseguest for the duration. MF3 is working insanely long hours at the moment and has a dog she feels guilty about leaving so was apparently disappointed not to have LF stay with her and provide company for the dog at night.

OP posts:
7yo7yo · 29/08/2019 23:54

Wow.
You’ve been royally used op.
What are you going to do?

InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 29/08/2019 23:55

Why would your friend not stay with MF3 - that makes no sense at all?

Cassandrainthenight · 30/08/2019 00:00

How did the Friend explain not taking up the offer, Wishing? 🤔
Do you have any idea why she didn't go when it was clear you didn't want her in your house?
I hope she's not secretly in love with your DH (just kidding, though stranger things happen)

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