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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
vavavoomdeboom · 28/08/2019 13:03

Good for you for finding your assertiveness. MFs are cheeky fuckers more than you're overstaying guest!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/08/2019 13:10

@Bookworm4 - yes, the mutual friends may be standing up to CF friend - but they are doing it by trying to guilt the OP into hosting the CF friend, and that just is not on. They don't care about the OP's stress at a point when she should be resting as much as possible and avoiding stress because she is hugely pregnant - they are not only washing their hands of the problem, they are trying to push the problem back to the OP - that is not acceptable and it is NOT the action of good friends, imo!

PirateWeasel · 28/08/2019 13:11

Your friends sound horrid! What gives them the right to prioritise her feelings over yours? You're pregnant for crying out loud! They should be coming round with bloody casseroles, not forcing you to host people that they clearly can't be bothered with. I'm livid with them on your behalf and I think you need to tell them again how disappointed you are with how they've walked all over you.

Beautiful3 · 28/08/2019 13:17

Well done you. I'm feeling so annoyed at your friends for pushing her back onto you. Pay a man with a van to take away the bed and mattress Friday lunch time. Let us know what happens on Friday.

Littlemissdaredevil · 28/08/2019 13:18

I think CFF DH working from home is an excuse. I presume he only works during the day when ‘lovely friend’ isn’t there.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 28/08/2019 13:19

Mutual friend called me again saying she's worried that DF is feeling unwelcome and struggling to focus on her course because her accomodation is 'up in the air'.

MF is "worried" alright, worried that DF will pitch up on her doorstep!

Poor helpless DF is feeling unwelcome is she? Well, that's because she is! DF was told in no uncertain terms that she was welcome to stay for the weekend. She decided to extend her stay against her hosts wishes and then she has the gall to 'tell tales' to MF's that OP isn't making her feel welcome??

Monkeymilkshake · 28/08/2019 13:20

I get why you're more annoyed with your MFs. They have ganged up on you. Surely you decide how you organise your house. And your MF's office is surely empty in the evenings? So her DH could work there during the day and your houseguest can sleep there in the evening?!

I hope you get your house back on Friday and that you can rest during the last few weeks of your pregnancy. Good luck. Xx

Ginger1982 · 28/08/2019 13:21

OP, if you take nothing else away after this is all over then please take away that your so-called mutual 'friends' are not your friends at all. They simply see you as someone who is there to lighten their own burden. I would be very wary about maintaining those friendships going forwards.

Vanhi · 28/08/2019 13:25

Why are women so often under the impression that they must be kind and accommodating to the detriment of themselves, their families and their homes. Sometiems even their finances.
We really need to, as a sex, stop the whole "you must always be kind" bullshit. Because you're not being kind.

This. I really wish someone had told my mother this 50 years ago, and made sure she understood it. Her urge to seem to be kind to others has affected her relationship with the rest of the family. I know she can't say No to other people so will in effect put their needs before those of herself or her family. She runs herself into the ground. Heck, her need to be kind saw her scammed out of hundreds of pounds because she couldn't bring herself to say no to someone asking for bank account details!

We are allowed to stand up for ourselves, especially against people who try to take advantage.

Eeyoreshouse · 28/08/2019 13:33

Apart from the very last bit about the storage space I think Dollydaydream's text is excellent. If you don't want to mention marriage counselliing, your pregnancy and toddler give you a legitimate "out" here op , and the new baby is a significant change in personal circumstances allowing a natural line to be drawn under the previous arrangement.

Tell her you are relieved she asked because, despite the fact that you love seeing her, you are feeling overwhelmed with everything at the moment. A true friend would totally understand. And you have been very kind offering up your home to her to this point. Rejecting this request in your current circumstances is nothing any reasonably minded person would begrudge you for! If anything, she is being a bit cheeky to ask imho.

LannieDuck · 28/08/2019 13:36

I'm mad on your behalf, OP! How dare your friends decide that you should be hosting DF when you've clearly said you can't. They're stepping so far over the line it's not true.

If it were me, I'm not sure our friendships would survive it.

Eeyoreshouse · 28/08/2019 13:37

Oh apologies, I missed out about two pages of the thread before I posted there! Your mf sound horrid op. Hope it all works out in a way that is most convenient for you op!

katewhinesalot · 28/08/2019 13:40

Yes I'd be more annoyed at MF's.

I feel a bit sorry for original friend as she just assumed because of your past history, but it's not rocket science to think that an 8 months pregnant woman might not want a prolonged house guest. The other friends are not nice to push it all back on you.

Benjispruce · 28/08/2019 13:43

You were very generous giving your key and I think that was perhaps a mistake. a general invitation to visit perhaps would have been wiser.
Fortunately for you, you have the perfect excuse in that you are heavily pregnant. I think you have to put your family's needs first.

MrsPerfect12 · 28/08/2019 13:45

Well done OP. Your other friends are guilting you, I'd be annoyed with that as well. I can see its nothing personal with your friend, you just need space. It's such a shame that they're not giving you the consideration when you are in your last month of pregnancy. Hopefully it will all be resolved soon. Good luck.

Windydaysuponus · 28/08/2019 13:48

Ask her what she wants for her goodbye meal tomorrow evening... Offer to help with packing!
And please don't ever leave a key outside again!.

Benjispruce · 28/08/2019 13:56

I said 'frankly, MF, you seem very concerned about inconvenience befalling literally anyone except me and I am starting to resent it.'

I'm impressed.

elessar · 28/08/2019 14:02

I can understand why you're more angry with your mutual friends. As you say, they're not remotely willing to inconvenience themselves in any way, yet they're trying to bully and guilt you into further inconveniencing yourself, despite the fact you've hosted the friend already for almost a week, and more than twice the length of time you'd said she could stay for.

If your friend is feeling unwelcome it's much more related to the fact that your other two friends are completely unwilling to put her up.

I'm really glad you've stood up to them - stay strong as I can imagine further guilt trips will be applied before you're rid of her.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 28/08/2019 14:11

That phone call - your M'F' is breathtakingly cheeky!

Benjispruce · 28/08/2019 14:14

Your MFs are getting twitchy because they know that if your offer dries up, they're next in the firing line so they are attacking you for it. It's nothing to do with them, go quiet for a bit. Awful that they would ramp up your stress at 8 months pregnant.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 28/08/2019 14:18

As per a perceptive PP, MFs and their DHs are trying to throw you under the bus in order not to have to play any part in DF’s accommodation, except organise it for her.

If OP is willing to host the entire visit she’s perfectly capable of working it out directly with the DF without anyone else’s input. I’d be spitting at the remark about already changed the sheets 🤨

Very pleased you asserted yourself OP, make sure you have other stock responses ready, including why is no one showing any thought or consideration for you and your situation? Very poor show from all your friends.

greatvengeanceandfuriousanger · 28/08/2019 14:21

Well said.

Your MFs can step up or not however they need to mind their own beeswax with regard to you. You've been exceptionally kind.

I think your CFF asking to stay for three weeks when you are eight months pregnant is self centred and thoughtless. They can sort it out.

MzHz · 28/08/2019 14:27

TBH, OP is 8m PG, why on earth should she be cooking a meal for the DF? DF ought to be taking OP out or buying a takeaway to say THANKS!!!!

DF is perfectly able to pack her stuff, far more able than someone 8m PG

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 28/08/2019 14:31

Again - this is a grown woman who is in charge of her faculties, albeit with some anxiety issues.

If she can't afford the course, if she don'ts like where she lives, if she doesn't like her job, if she is lonely - these are all her own issues to sort out.

She must be a master manipulator to have the three of you scurrying around trying to sort out her accommodation for her!

SavingSpaces2019 · 28/08/2019 14:42

It's hilarious - CF friend is in everyone's ear and has got you ALL running around taking responsibility for her - and reporting to her about the 'job' she's assigned you all Grin .....and not a single one of you has the guts to be blunt with her!
Grin Grin

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