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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
rookiemere · 28/08/2019 10:20

I love your latest update OP , you're totally kicking ass.

It seems like the friendship group has an unspoken narrative - poor DF needs looking after and you're the one with the shiny perfect life and the spare floor for visitors. Except you're about to go into labour and you're actively working on your marriage.

I think you're absolutely right not to pony up for a B&B, for one thing it feeds the dynamic of poor woebegone friend and you as problem solver with the deep pockets.

MyNewBearTotoro · 28/08/2019 10:30

Have your mutual friends got children? Do they understand what it’s like to be 8 months pregnant?

I think they are being unfair expecting you to do this much hosting when you are just weeks away from going into labour. Fingers crossed this all gets resolved.

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 28/08/2019 10:45

Jesus wept! How thick skinned is this CF?

Or just thick.
Why on earth is everyone making plans for her, like she's a child? Let her do it herself. Jeez.

RavenLG · 28/08/2019 10:47

I’ve not rtft (just OPs updates) but honestly I am fizzing with rage on your behalf. I think I’m more angry at your mutual friends. Why do they think it’s ok to lumber a pregnant woman about to pop with a houseguest for 3 weeks!

I said 'frankly, MF, you seem very concerned about inconvenience befalling literally anyone except me and I am starting to resent it.’

This was very restrained and I can’t believe the cunt had the gall to basically say “well your house is better and we are stressing friend out too much” sorry but her arse of a husband can just go to the office for the week ffs. And don’t worry about stressing out your days away from labour friend.
Arseholes. I couldn’t have held my tongue with that.

I’d personally on Friday, just dismantle the bed and move things around, so she physically has no where to stay. She is taking the piss, but when your friends can easily host her they’re worse imo!

AtrociousCircumstance · 28/08/2019 10:49

Haha, I wasn’t suggesting your friend’s presence would hurt your unborn child OP - chill Grin Just that you were prioritising DF’s feelings over your 8 months pg exhaustion and stress levels.

But glad you have stepped up and taken control!

CoraPirbright · 28/08/2019 10:52

Well done you for getting tough! As bad as your CF friend is, I am afraid to say that I think your two mutual friends are utter cunts! They don’t care in the slightest that you are heavily pregnant - they only care about themselves and not putting themselves out in the slightest way. 😡

MzHz · 28/08/2019 10:59

This friend staying will be the end of your relationship with all 3.

they don't give a shiny shit about you, your health or anything! ALL they care about is themselves and not having to step up and be responsible for themselves at all.

Pushing back when you have clearly said I DON'T want her here any more, it's making me ILL, is absolutely outrageous.

Your phone call with the MF was AWESOME!!! well done you!! we all know how hard that was and Im really delighted to see that you are strong enough to call them out for their bullshit.

You said the weekend - she has TAKEN a week. When she has left, do yourself the favour of blocking her on everything, and change the locks.

There is no coming back from this.

obligations · 28/08/2019 11:10

I said I wasn't getting into it with her. I said would have DF until Friday, but only if MF and other MF then take her for a week each...She tried to argue that moving around is too disruptive to DF who is already stressed. I said it's that or a hotel. I'm not doing the three weeks. She then said she'd talk to her DH and MF2.

Result! And don't mind anyone saying that your friendships with DF and the MFs is utterly doomed. You've set out your boundaries very very well, and they will have to take this seriously - managing to change the dynamics in a friendship is tricky but great when it works. We're all proud of you OP, go you. This is just an irritating little episode but hopefully one from which you get lasting benefits Flowers Flowers

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 28/08/2019 11:16

@RavenLG I can't articulate why but I'm way more annoyed at our mutual friends than I am at houseguest friend.

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EdtheBear · 28/08/2019 11:24

My guess it because you expected MFs to have your back . Recognise that you are at an exhausting time and can do without visitors. Instead they have both got each other's backs and instead of removing the burdon they have pushed it firmly into your court.

I case you missed my comment earlier your house is for YOUR convenience, inc the top floor not for anybody else's.

Rufftumbles · 28/08/2019 11:27

Your mutual friends are shit but the CF houseguest is the worst. She’s an ADULT and she knows she’s inconveniencing people but still chooses to hang around! Why is everyone infantilising her?

I really feel for you OP! I know it’s tough but keep reminding yourself that she is not a child and should be taking responsibility for herself. Make sure you are firm on Friday and wishing you all the best for the remainder of your pregnancy.

Byorderofthepeakyblinders · 28/08/2019 11:40

Glad you are getting control of the situation now.

I just can't understand though why 3 other people have to arrange this woman's accommodation for her while she seems to potter about with her head in the clouds, does she have no shame?

rookiemere · 28/08/2019 11:42

I'd be annoyed at the mutual friends as well. DF has listened to what you've said and made an attempt to move out. If friends do not wish to house her well it's down to them to tell her to make alternative arrangements not point her back in your direction and tell you how stressed it's making her.

If they had an ounce of empathy they would be thinking that it's most unusual for you OP not to be your usual generous self and wonder why that was and ask after your welfare rather than saving all their compassion for forever flaky and stressed ( through her own life choices) friend.

Bookworm4 · 28/08/2019 11:43

I wouldn’t be mad at mutual friends, they have had enough and stood up to the CF. Why do you all feel responsible for her? She’s an adult not a 5 yr old, has she not got family who would put her up?
Tbf you have all created this situation by letting this ignorant user trample all over you. Your friend is not a nice person, she’s rude, ignorant, tight fisted, selfish and couldn’t care less about you or your feelings. Friends don’t treat each other like this.

CharityDingle · 28/08/2019 11:45

Well done OP. Now make sure when she departs your house on Friday morning that she leaves nothing after her. And returns her key.
Mutual friends are just as bad as her, if not worse, IMO.
Interesting that they say that she can't focus etc because her accommodation is up in the air.
So, is she whining to them, or are they inventing stuff. Hmm.
As for the husband working from home, the room will still be empty at night surely Wink

Bookworm4 · 28/08/2019 11:46

@Byorderofthepeakyblindersbyorder
I don’t think her head is in the clouds at all, I think it’s all deliberate, nobody can be so ignorant to other people: all 3 friends have told her NO and here she is 3 days later still hanging about no doubt hoping @WishingILivedOnAnIsland will just let her stay. Nasty & manipulative but no doubt putting on a good ‘poor wee me’ act.

MzHz · 28/08/2019 11:52

I wouldn’t be mad at mutual friends, they have had enough and stood up to the CF.

But they have not done anywhere near the level of hosting that OP has, AND they are putting their feet down to refuse point blank to help the 'D'F now. They know OP is heavily PG, and is struggling in this and other areas and they STILL want her to be inconvenienced for WEEKS rather than (a) DF sorts her own fucking shit out or - heaven forfend - (b) the other friends put themselves out to help OP and this seemingly idiotic DF.

DF is bleating that she feels unwelcome - well shut the front door, it's trickled through? Fan-bloody-tastic. She was welcome for the weekend. That ran out on SUNDAY. It was made clear to her that Sunday she would need to go. She completely ignored that and is now gunning for an entire fucking week.

Absolutely damned right she's unwelcome. Shame on her. Shame on the MFs too for their bullying of the OP.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 28/08/2019 12:15

I've just caught up and wanted to add my voice to those who are congratulating you @WishingILivedOnAnIsland , well done!

Now that you've set out your stall (so to speak), you need to keep reminding DF particularly to make sure that she has all her stuff packed so that when she leaves to attend the course on Friday, she is fully aware that she won't be coming back to your house when the training wraps up for the weekend. She'll either be going home, going to a B&B or going to one of the MF's.
Perhaps if she is to stay with you at some time in the future, you should consider setting up a rota so that she cooks, cleans and contributes to the household, considering she seems to treat it like her home away from home.

@CharityDingle - good point about the office/bedroom in MF's house being vacant at night!!

greenwaterbottle · 28/08/2019 12:41

I think you're more annoyed at other friend because you're still infantilising the cf.
if she'd sorted herself out none of this would have happened.

Now is the time to draw a line in the sand and expect cf to sort her own life out.

thecatsthecats · 28/08/2019 12:45

If you're watching Father Ted, put Entertaining Father Stone on on a fecking loop.

Or play Mrs Doyle down the phone to your friends til they take her.

QueenofallIsee · 28/08/2019 12:46

Well done OP, your MF should be heartily ashamed!

SeekingShade · 28/08/2019 12:49

The problem with the mutual friends is that they aren't putting their feet down they are throwing op under the bus. They're not saying 'no you can't say here' they're saying 'go and stay with op' and trying to bully her into it.
It's arguable a good friend would say, 'no you can't stay here and don't you dare go bothering op she's 8 months pregnant'

You need to get her out, get your key and don't let her back in.

billy1966 · 28/08/2019 12:53

OP, going forward with 3 children, I doubt you will have the head space to be running around after your friends like you have.

Exhausting friends that need endless support and use you as free counseling is the absolutely last thing you need IMO.

Supportive friends that you can bounce off and have a laugh with are a wonderful escape from the busyness of a young family.

Motoko · 28/08/2019 12:55

You were great with MF and the one who's causing the problem this morning. Keep it up.

If she's feeling unwelcome, why doesn't she move out? Why would anyone stay where they feel unwelcome? Anyway, she isn't welcome any more. She was told only the weekend, this is all down to her.

I'm so glad you said no to DH about paying for a hotel, but it sounds like he said that in desperation. I'm not sure he is so laid back about this, but he doesn't want to upset you. I know my laid back DH would be more than annoyed by now.

Anyway, keep reiterating what you said this morning, if you keep being hassled.

Frownette · 28/08/2019 12:57

Agree @greenbottlewater, friend is not a child and should sort herself out from now on. She sounds exhausting

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