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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
SchadenfreudePersonified · 27/08/2019 19:19

I have resting bitch face

I have a resting murder face Weezol - can I hitch a ride on your fork lift?

Vanhi · 27/08/2019 19:23

Well, it's one thing to act lovely and it's another thing altogether to actually be lovely which involves having a bit of consideration for others, sometimes even when it involves doing something you don't want to do.

This. She isn't lovely, just superficially charming. Just because people aren't actively and outwardly rude or nasty, does not make them lovely. It is not lovely to stay with a heavily pregnant friend for 3 weeks because it suits you, when it quite evidently doesn't suit you. It wouldn't suit anyone.

Honestly OP I'd get rid of her and ditch the friendship. You might lose the mutual friends too because despite their inability to host her, they are being manipulated by her.

Vanhi · 27/08/2019 19:25

Doesn't suit them, that should say. it suits the guest, not the host.

EdtheBear · 27/08/2019 19:26

Op what is DH saying about her now?

Podwoman888 · 27/08/2019 19:34

I think you are a wonderful, lovely person do do this for a friend. I don' t know how many other people would do this, to be honest. However, I think the 'friendship card' has now been played out.

You need to tell her that she needs to make some alternative living arrangements as you will soon have too much on your plate to cope with a 'lodger'.

Did she ever pay any 'rent' BTW?

Whitney168 · 27/08/2019 19:37

It is not lovely to stay with a heavily pregnant friend for 3 weeks because it suits you, when it quite evidently doesn't suit them

Well, it's not been lovely for 2 years, when she's treated the house as a free hotel either to be honest (haven't heard any mention of her contributing financially or in any other way?).

Get tough OP and just change your lock barrel and be done with it - and do it quick, so you and your husband can sort your own house to what works for you and get settled down before the new baby comes. Yes, you might lose her as a friend, but if you do she really wasn't ever a friend anyway. Flowers

Riv · 27/08/2019 20:08

Could you ask her ‘how long are you planning to stay”
No, but you could politely ask her “where are you staying tonight?”
And, if you are feeling extra kind “have you ordered a taxi or would you like me to do that?” Followed by “are you taking all your stuff with you now or shall we send it on? “ “Which service are you going to use? Just we don’t want to hand it over to the wrong company after we have looked after it for so long” (tinkly laugh) adding “sorry you can’t come back for it, we might be out, and you won’t be able to just collect it because you obviously need to return our key (looking regretful)

Snowfalling · 27/08/2019 20:11

I think we all need to back off and let the OP deal with things as she and dh see fit.

She is heavily pregnant, and the pressure piled on here is immense. It must be as bad for her and her unborn baby as the unwelcome houseguest, if not worse. If I was the op, the constant egging on by complete strangers would make me extremely anxious. She is not only dealing with the stress at home of her df overstaying and her dh hating it, she is also having to feel bad for not listening to advice on here, people telling her she is a wet blanket and they are embarrassed for her, people telling her how ANGRY and frustrated they feel etc. It's almost crossing a line into cyber bullying.

MaggieFS · 27/08/2019 20:25

Golly what a pickle. You're friends really aren't being very friendly. I would agree with pp, you need to tell friends one and two it's their turn, and tell DF you're really struggling and need the space, as expected and as per why you said she could only stay until Sunday. You're being lovely, but ultimately you need to be a bit selfish.

candycane222 · 27/08/2019 20:27

Thank you snowfalling . I agree.

BBOA · 27/08/2019 20:29

She sounds like she's very insensitive and/or taking the piss!

BlueBilledBeatboxingBird · 27/08/2019 20:34

Well said @Snowfalling.

Sparklypurpleunicornsaremyfav · 27/08/2019 20:39

I think the last thing op needs is all of us being nasty and piling extra pressure on her. Just need to be here for extra words of support and to let her vent. Having said that, please tell her she has to go tomorrow!!!!!!

Branleuse · 27/08/2019 20:40

dont forget this is supposed to be a dear and valued friend, and the OP has actually OFFERED her to stay whenever, and given a key. This might well be friend being a bit oblivious, but it doesnt sound like shes some massive bitch either. I think some of you go a bit OTT tbh.

I think youre clearly a bit stuck now, but youve made it clear this is the last time, which is the main thing

Snowfalling · 27/08/2019 20:51

Op, I don't know if you're still reading this thread, I hope you're well.

For the record, I think your friend is taking advantage of your kindness and good nature hugely. You don't owe her a roof over her head. However, you also don't owe it to anyone on this thread, myself included, to do their bidding.

It can't be easy, being heavily pregnant, feeling stuck between your husband and your friend, and your own feelings of being taken advantage of, while others friends let you down. Not forgetting looking after your young dc, especially in this heat.

I really hope you're ok.

Tistheseason17 · 27/08/2019 21:31

Perhaps ask your DH to get her to go if you're to stressed? And she CAN get a hotel- most normal people do.
Good luck 🤞🤞🤞

plonkington · 27/08/2019 21:51

I wouldn’t say that your toddler is moving into the spare room. That’s not true and when she comes to pick up her stuff she’ll know you lied to her which will throw an unnecessary spanner in the works. You don’t need to make up an excuse. Just say life is very different now to how it was two years ago and you are not have anyone to stay for the foreseeable future. It’s not her it’s you and you need some space etc etc.

plonkington · 27/08/2019 22:04

Also.. forgot to say.. the fact she’s already booked the course means that she intends to do no matter where she’s staying. She’s checked if it’s ok to stay with you as a first option but she knows it might not be possible which is why she’s checking. She won’t be surprised if you say no because you need some space leading up to birth etc. I’ll bet she’s half expecting it so don’t overthink it. And don’t offer her even one day. This is the right time to change these arrangements smoothly and easily

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 27/08/2019 22:05

I think we all need to back off and let the OP deal with things as she and dh see fit.

Op asked for help and, as far as I can see, most people have been giving her that.

homeishere · 27/08/2019 22:21

You’re being a bit of a door mat here OP. Looks like she’ll be with you until the end of the course/baby arriving.

Motoko · 27/08/2019 22:22

@plonkington RTFT! OP said she could stay for the weekend. She's still there!

PapayaCoconut · 27/08/2019 22:38

Agree with @Snowfalling

OP, I'm a people-pleaser like you, as are most people I know. Women are conditioned to put themselves last. There's nothing weird or wrong about your behaviour and you're not letting your unborn baby down, FFS. You do need to resolve the issue, but that's why you're here so you're clearly trying.

Take care of yourself.

HairyDogsOfThigh · 27/08/2019 22:56

I do hope she's gone now, OP and you are having a lovely rest in your peaceful friend-free house.

wineandroses1 · 27/08/2019 23:04

Sorry to pile in Op, but bloody hell! Presumably you’ve considered that some of your marital problems are down to your propensity to let CF friend and other randoms stay for prolonged periods in your home. Why would you do that?

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 27/08/2019 23:23

Oh WishingILivedOnAnIsland, was thinking about you today and hoping she'd buggered off by now, it's not you that should be embarrassed.

Wish you well, good luck for tomorrow, can't imagine the stress you're under Thanks

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