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AIBU?

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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
BarbariansMum · 27/08/2019 18:05

You are 8 months pregnant. This is the ideal time to change things.

QueenofallIsee · 27/08/2019 18:10

Your friends are dreadful and I am so sorry that this is stressing you out so much. Please do see this for what it is though, these people are users!

dimsum123 · 27/08/2019 18:14

You've been too nice OP and been taken advantage of by some not very nice people.

Pack CF bags, possibly ring round and find a hotel/b&b she can go to (not that you should have to but it's for your own benefit) book her in (don't pay obvs) and give her her stuff and the address of the hotel when she arrives, get the key off her, call her a taxi and wave goodbye.

YoTheGinPussyOfStMawesOnThigh · 27/08/2019 18:16

I would like to sign up for the hit squad too. I am very good at belabouring with a rolling pin.

Strength OP, this will pass.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 27/08/2019 18:18

I think the DH speech above is your go to here...

Derbee · 27/08/2019 18:19

Where are you OP? Can one of us who is close just show up with lots of (empty) suitcases and pretend to be a long long family member who needs to stay for a couple of weeks 😉 “hello stranger, sorry to be an inconvenience but @WishingILivedOnAnIsland always said if I was in the area I simply must come and stay. You don’t mind moving out of your room, and their house so we can all catch up, do you? Very good, see you later” 👋🏼

Derbee · 27/08/2019 18:21

On one hand, your friends are awful. On the other hand, they’ve both refused to have a houseguest that they don’t want. The only thing they’ve done wrong is told you, rather than your friend.

Also, I’m sorry but I think she actually is a CF, after the conversations you’ve had. She’s refusing to get the hint

northernlites · 27/08/2019 18:29

I'm a midwife @WishingILivedOnAnIsland ...if we live near each other I could come round with all kit and declare immediate bed rest required and quiet environment
PM me if you want

Shebertherbert · 27/08/2019 18:46

I find this thread so frustrating. Tell her straight. She is no longer welcome to stay. Tell her to take her things with her when she leaves. Get the key off her. She isn't contributing in any way. Don't make up excuses. You are not leaving her homeless. She's got her own place she should stay in it. Medical appointments and courses should be arranged in her new town. Why are her friends having to get involved and put her up at all?

AtrociousCircumstance · 27/08/2019 18:48

Please stop being so wet! Put yourself - and your unborn child - first.

You are literally prioritising this adult over your unborn child by not speaking up.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 27/08/2019 18:52

If you're anywhere near me I will gladly drop everything and drive round to your house to tell your 'friend' to kindly fuck the fuck off...I genuinely would and we don't even know each other! So surely your lovely DH should be willing to handle this for you. He needs to talk to your friend today and explain that you've both tried to handle this politely and sensitively but now you're really starting to feel taken advantage of so she needs to pack up her things now because tonight will be her last night in your home. If she can't find another friend to sponge off then she has two options, she pays for accomodation or she goes home.

billy1966 · 27/08/2019 18:52

Is it any surprise women get cranky. If a chum of mine was being treated like this in her home, I'd be furious.

Also no wonder you have women who take no shit. Any sign of weakness and you can get massively taken for advantage.

I really feel too your husband should be stepping in and telling her to jog on. This can't be good for you.

Two toddlers and pregnant and she sits on her arse. Unbelievable.

karenbokaren · 27/08/2019 18:53

I live on an island op and it just means people stay longer. Grin

lawnmowingsucks · 27/08/2019 18:53

I'm bowing out of reading any more of this thread. I am utterly embarrassed for you @WishingILivedOnAnIsland

To put this CF friend before your DH and your child.

It just beggars belief

I'm not sure what's wrong with you but something is imo ....and I mean that in an enquiring way rather than an accusative way

Mxyzptlk · 27/08/2019 18:53

Btw, someone asked why CF's work isn't paying for her accommodation - it's because she could do the course in the town she lives in so there's no need for accommodation in OP's town.

I expect OP is busy with evening meal (if CF hasn't offered, haha) and toddlers' bedtime but meanwhile her DH is taking the chance to put CF straight (I very much hope).

Byorderofthepeakyblinders · 27/08/2019 18:58

This is one of the most frustrating threads I have ever read, you need to toughen up

Ohmygoodnessreally · 27/08/2019 18:59

You’re sensing such a bad message to your husband about how you feel about him and your marriage Sad

Not to mention that poor baby, hasn’t even been born yet!

CakeNinja · 27/08/2019 19:01

@lawnmowingsucks and @Byorderofthepeakyblinders I couldn’t agree more Shock
Being pregnant is a red herring, it’s not a genuine reason for indirectness and flakiness.

SolitudeAtAltitude · 27/08/2019 19:02

OP, get this bloody cuckoo out of the nest!

She is not "lovely", she is a cold hearted taker, taking advantage of you (because you let her!)

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 27/08/2019 19:02

If she moved out of your town 2 years ago, why the hell hasn't she registered at a GP near her? Why does she come and stay with you for medical appointments? It's all very odd.

YouTheCat · 27/08/2019 19:05

You say you're having marriage problems. Is any of this to do with constant house guests? It would seriously piss me off if dd or dp had a steady stream of people staying. I love having people to stay for a short time, with plenty of notice.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 27/08/2019 19:08

I reckon OP's friend is one of those people who seems genuinely nice but is actually very adept at getting people to do what she wants, even when it's clearly not in their best interests. Interesting that mutual friends are so very concerned about her accomodation but are desperately trying to get out of putting her up. Not only that but they have felt the need to communicate about her accomodation needs with OP instead of talking to her directly- it's almost as if they know they'll be manipulated or guilt tripped into hosting her if they actually have the conversation with her themselves.
OP has consistently been there for this woman and put herself (and her family) out for her for years and the one time she decides (with very good reason) to prioritise her own needs her 'friend' decides completely ignores her and just carries on as though the conversation never happened. I cannot fathom that level of selfishness in anyone, let alone from someone who OP and mutual friends keep describing as "lovely". Well, it's one thing to act lovely and it's another thing altogether to actually be lovely which involves having a bit of consideration for others, sometimes even when it involves doing something you don't want to do.

She's not "lovely" OP, she's a cheeky fucker and she needs to get out of your house.

olbndansmummy · 27/08/2019 19:08

I'm also volunteering for the MN hit squad, poor you op, you do need to be more direct and not so nice. Really hope you get her out soon. Show her this thread, maybe that'll shift the cf

howdyalikemenow · 27/08/2019 19:11

I reckon this will be in the press before the week is out. Maybe that will give her the hint she needs?

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/08/2019 19:15

Oh dear. I also think your dh needs to intervene now. The way these so called “friends” are treating you is unacceptable. You are putting them before your children, your dh, your physical and mental health.

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