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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
JaffaCakeGal · 27/08/2019 15:38

OP you seem lovely and because of this I think unfortunately you may have to put up with your friend for the duration! The only option I can see is for you to ask DH if he can speak to her and say "OP is too nice to say, but we really do need our space at the moment and she is exhausted. I hope you understand". Then once the baby is born you need to reconfigure the house to make it less comfortable for long term lodgers!

Ticklemeelmo · 27/08/2019 16:02

I don't see why you need to give your bed away for free just to get rid of her.

She's being totally ridiculous at this point. It seems to me as though she's just going to ' quietly' try and stay at yours for the duration of the course.

The suggestion to get your husband to speak to her was a good one

MzHz · 27/08/2019 16:16

We could tell colleagues to stop eating smelly food at their desks, teenagers that the world doesn’t revolve around them, lazy partners that they will not die on the spot if they do some housework interfering ILs to wind their necks in and cheeky fuckers that they are cheeky fuckers and must stop taking the piss.

Oh yes and enough of us can pick up cf parked cars and just move them over a cliff out of the way

YouTheCat · 27/08/2019 16:20

I'm in! Where do I sign up? Grin

Sorrysorrysosorry · 27/08/2019 16:22

The reason (I'm guessing) they are pressuring me is that if she really can't stay with me then they will feel obligated

But they are perfectly happy for you to feel obligated. And these are friends?!

Drum2018 · 27/08/2019 16:22

Don't bother texting your other friends about her now as clearly they have more balls and have washed their hands of the problem and landed it on your doorstep. No way they are going to have this fucking fuckwit friend staying at their houses as they know they'll never bloody well get rid of her. They had no problem saying NO, yet here you are still hosting the CF. Forget about beds, rejigging rooms etc and just tell her today that you are done, you are tired, you need rest, not stress, and she simply has to find somewhere else to stay from this evening.

And if you really cannot say something to her perhaps your Dh could grow a pair and do it as suggested above,

This can’t continue, Wishing doesn’t want to upset you, but I can’t stand by while my dear, 8 month pregnant wife gets treated like this. You were told it was only for the weekend. You’ve seen how tired Wishing is. You need to find yourself different accommodation for tomorrow night. Take your bag with you in the morning. Send Wishing some flowers to say sorry

CookPassBabtridge · 27/08/2019 16:22

Your friends sound worse than the staying friend!

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 27/08/2019 16:22

I don't see why you need to give your bed away for free just to get rid of her.

I know!! Bit drastic and she still hasn't gone!!

LipstickTaserrr · 27/08/2019 16:23

The way they are treating you is disgusting. Heavily pregnant with two toddlers yet they feel entitled to do as they wish with your house just because it has a room with a bed in. (Like a hotel does!)

BoomBoomsCousin · 27/08/2019 16:23

Or taking her things to the mutual friend with the working from home (I wonder if he is really) DH. Knock on the door, indicate DF’s bags on the doorstep and say firmly CF is now staying with them. Send DF a text saying where her things are and by the way give us our keys back.

Wow. The mutual friends may have been a bit out of order with their “she’ll be happier with you” comments but none of them are obliged to house her. Whether or not the other DH is working from home it is out of order to dump someone else’s belongings with them.

It is up to the “lovely” friend to sort out her own accommodation, to beg other friends to put her up if she wants and needs to or to cough up for hotel and stop putting pressure on others or to leave the course she shouldn’t have bloody well signed up for without having ensured her accommodation in the first place. It’s not the other friends’ fault that the “lovely” friend is a CF or that OP has kind of fed that by being a bit of a walk over for the past few years.

EdtheBear · 27/08/2019 16:32

I assume the bed is going because it needs to become an office so the toddler can have the room currently used as an office. Not just to get rid of guests

Op I do like the idea if getting DH to talk to her too. He can say something along the lines of your finding it hard work and he'd rather you weren't exhausting yourself looking after her as well as the house and small children.

I think he should get the key back off her but I can't quiet find the right way to put it. Maybe" since Op not fit for guests you'll not be needing the key. Please leave it when you go on Friday"

Chillyourbeans · 27/08/2019 16:45

8 months pregnant during a heatwave with 2 toddlers , you must be on your knees with exhaustion. I think you need to enlist DH. You lock yourself away in your bedroom and DH meets DF at the door when she returns from her course. He tells her you're unwell, the stress is bad for you and the baby and that as a good friend he knows she will understand that she needs to respect the original arrangement and leave immediately. He plays gatekeeper, makes sure she has no access to you, you need your rest and the midwife says you must not be disturbed. He helps her pack and takes her key. Good luck OP, I feel furious for you.

dustarr73 · 27/08/2019 16:47

This can’t continue, Wishing doesn’t want to upset you, but I can’t stand by while my dear, 8 month pregnant wife gets treated like this. You were told it was only for the weekend. You’ve seen how tired Wishing is. You need to find yourself different accommodation for tomorrow night. Take your bag with you in the morning. Send Wishing some flowers to say sorry

This with fucking bells on

hittheroadjack1 · 27/08/2019 16:55

If I live near you, I'm happy to tell your CF friend to piss off!

Happy to tell the mutual ones the same thing.

MrsCplus · 27/08/2019 17:04

8 months pregnant. With a toddler. All the friends here are CFs. All of them. I'm sorry OP about how you have treated I hope you get rid of every single one of them and your marriage and family thrive.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 27/08/2019 17:06

This can’t continue, Wishing doesn’t want to upset you, but I can’t stand by while my dear, 8 month pregnant wife gets treated like this. You were told it was only for the weekend. You’ve seen how tired Wishing is. You need to find yourself different accommodation for tomorrow night. Take your bag with you in the morning. Send Wishing some flowers to say sorry

I agree with the many, many other people who have seconded this.

ALL of this has fallen on the OP - okay, this is her friend, but her DH KNOWS that she is exhausted and emotionally vulnerable at the moment and needs him to get her back.

OP, I'm not trying to pressure you, but for your sake, your children's sake, your unborn baby's sake and your marriage's sake, you MUST get rid of this cuckoo.

If your DH won't stand by and tell her to leave, you have to do it. When she goes to her course, pack her bag and have it ready to hand to her when she comes back. Swap it for your key. Don't feed her. Don't even ket her into the house. She should have already left.

As a PP has said, she thinks your remarks don't apply to her. Make sure she knows that they do. She has no consideration for you - you don't need to have any more for her. You have been more than generous and need to draw a line in the sand now.

(Do you have family near? Would your mother/ sister/ Auntie Pauline/ whoever consider coming to stay to help you get some rest and evict your unwanted lodger You do sound as though you need someone to take a bit of the load off your shoulders, whether Cuckoo-Friend was there or not. If necessary they can move in, needing the bedroom, and leave the minute her arse is out of the door.)

(And don't forget your key . . . )

lavenderandthyme · 27/08/2019 17:19

I'm just thinking back now to some of the 'friends' and relatives who stayed with us shortly after me having a baby. I don't recall any offers of help or presents for the baby either.

KidLorneRoll · 27/08/2019 17:22

This is insane.

Pack the CF's things, put them outside the door and tell her to fuck off. Change the locks if necessary.

It's your home, you have the absolute right to decide who is welcome in it.

Ginger1982 · 27/08/2019 17:29

FGS!!! I appreciate how hard you find this but you and your DH NEED to grow backbones here and get her told! This is ridiculous!!

AuntieMaggie · 27/08/2019 17:30

Where do you live? I'm sure someone on here could relieve you of the bed...

I'm also 8 months pregnant and this weekend has been bad enough with the hot weather without this stress. I agree - get your DH to tell her she needs to go.

CTRL · 27/08/2019 17:56

I can’t believe the CF (I’m not sure what that means but I’m assuming stands for cheeky fucker) is still there !

I would ask for my key TONIGHT - make it agin crystal clear she has to find accommodation tomorrow and she can let you know once she’s settled.

If she is down by yours so often then she needs to rent her own place where she can stay without worrying about overstaying her welcome.

NEVER NEVER in my life have I experienced such a cheek and I know for sure I wouldn’t put up wit it.

Sorry OP but you and your husband needs to grow a pair and tel the scrounger to sling her hook once and for all !

Weezol · 27/08/2019 17:57

Further volunteer for the MN Hit Squad!

I can't drive and I'm really small, but I have resting bitch face, can drive a fork lift, have done door work and grew up on the estate where Rita, Sue & Bob Too was set/filmed in the 80's.

If I can get 18 stones of fighty drunk out of a club I don’t think your friend will be a problem.

CTRL · 27/08/2019 17:58

Insane to resort to getting rid of your own furniture so she would go !?! Like what the hell

Not me

The bloody bed would stay put until I’m ready for it to go. And let’s be real OP - the bed was never an issue until other posters said get rid of it to prevent her staying. You shouldn’t have to do that anyway.

I would give her a date to go and if she’s not made any plans to make a move she would come home to find her stuff packed and waiting outside. Sorry if it sounds bad but sometimes you have to put yourself first and you’ve given her enough leeway - she needs to go ! And for good

milienhaus · 27/08/2019 18:00

You sound very lovely and I’m so sorry that your friends are treating you this way!

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 27/08/2019 18:05

Do we know what CF does for a living? Presumably she has quite a good job if she travels for a week long course? How on earth does she function day to day if she's so incapable? Unless it's all an act to get her own way?

Hope she's gone OP although I know she hasn't 😩

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