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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Grambler · 27/08/2019 13:41

I'd send Clutterbug's text to your friends and get your DH - if you can't - explain you are going to give birth anyday now and you are hot, tired and hormonal and you need her to go NOW.

It might be awful but ha ing her in your house any longer will also be awful.

If she was a real friend she would have spent the weekend moving the furniture around for you, not hiding from you.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 27/08/2019 13:42

You are NOT obliged to put this woman up for a moment longer. She has her own home to go back to - you're not making her homeless by enforcing your boundaries. If it means she misses her course then tough bananas - she shouldn't have booked it before sorting out proper accommodation. Why does her comfort come before yours and your husband's? You're already in marriage counselling for other issues - don't add this one to it.

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 27/08/2019 13:47

My God I don't think your friends are really friends at all but Users of the highest order. Getting you to put up their relatives in your house like it's some free B&B? 😡

As for your CF 'friend' she needs to get out and find her own accommodation. It doesn't matter if it's really expensive where you live, hell, she's saved thousands staying at yours for years.

I think you have to be blunt. I know you find it hard and you are obviously a very nice person but perhaps too nice. It's time to be a bit tougher for your own health and marriage.
Get rid TODAY!!!!!!!

Cherrysoup · 27/08/2019 13:49

Your friends are shit heads. As long as they aren’t inconvenienced, eh? Outrageous. You need to tell your houseguest that she has to get sorted by tomorrow, or you and she will fall out big time.

Bookworm4 · 27/08/2019 13:51

I’ve just rtft, jeezo she’s such a cf and thick skinned! Has she heard of that crazy invention called a hotel? Why does she assume she can make plans and expect friends to give her free room & board? Utterly cheeky cow, tell her she needs to go by tomorrow 6pm or everything of hers will be in shed!

itsboiledeggsagain · 27/08/2019 13:52

Blimey op. Get her gone.
Look after yourself

CallmeAngelina · 27/08/2019 13:57

"They've decided that she'd be more comfortable at yours?!"
I bet they have. Cheeky fuckers!
You have been stuck holding the shitty stick, OP, and mark my words, this woman will still be staying at yours for the entire course.

absopugginglutely · 27/08/2019 13:57

Time to build a new tribe OP.

Lilaclady9 · 27/08/2019 13:58

I'm not going to berate you and repeat what every other poster here is saying. You know you what you need to do.
I do hope that this is a major learning curve for you and that you choose your friends more wisely in future.

Frownette · 27/08/2019 14:00

Ask for the key back when she gets in.

prettybird · 27/08/2019 14:01

Poor you, stuck in the middle of these not so dear friends and 8 months (and counting Wink) pregnant! Sad

At the risk of being seen to be piling in, you need to ask for your key back. You can do so pleasantly by saying you'd said that she could stay for the weekend but the weekend is over now.....

dustarr73 · 27/08/2019 14:03

Pretend to go in to labour.

Motoko · 27/08/2019 14:03

I'm glad you and DH have decided to stop hosting any friends. You've been taken the right royal piss of. Putting up people you don't even know? Madness!

I think you need to consider that the person you thought was so lovely, is actually only lovely when she's getting her own way. And now she's got the flying monkeys telling you that THEY'VE DECIDED that how you feel, and what you can cope with (an extra person doesn't make much difference?) makes not a jot of difference. They don't want her, so they're telling you that you have to have her, ordering you around like you're their lackey.

This has gone beyond a joke now. You need to lose your rag with those "friends". Tell them they're being shit friends, and they can forget about you doing them any more favours, and how dare they tell you that you have to put her up!

Get DH to tell your "friend" to sling her hook, if you can't. She's not a child, so stop pussy footing around her, twisting yourself in knots to try to not hurt her feelings. She's not worrying about your feelings, and now she's definitely in CF territory.

As you probably saw from the previous posts, it was obvious that she was still there, and you were embarrassed to update, but please don't be embarrassed to update. You need the more objective views on here to help you and give you strength. If you hadn't posted the thread, you'd never even have told her she could only stay the weekend, and would be putting her up for the whole time. You may not have taken all the advice, but you took some of it, and you can build on that.

I'm really sorry that your "friend" has taken so much advantage of you, it's a hard thing to accept, but you really, really, need to put a stop to it right now. All this stress is not good for yours and baby's health, especially at this late stage.

Regarding the bed, near me, there's a charity that collects household items to give to homeless people moving into housing. See if there's one like that near you.

You've made a good start, but now you have to end it. Flowers

WhatchaMaCalllit · 27/08/2019 14:11

FFS @WishingILivedOnAnIsland.

You no longer want her to be in your spare room.

It's NOT your problem to sort out her accommodation requirements.

TELL her that she has to find an AirBnB or a Bed and Breakfast while she attends the rest of her training course as you need to be able to focus on the remaining weeks of your pregnancy so she HAS to find alternative accommodation by Friday. You're not able to have her stay any longer than that.

She can go home after her course on Friday (directly from the course) and sort out accommodation for the next two weeks from her own place.

STOP BEING A DOOR MAT!!

I'm so frustrated on your behalf but you really have to tell her she has to go. Stop pussyfooting around and tell her.

You're going to look back on this pregnancy and realize that she ended up ruining what should be the final nesting period before the new baby arrives.

Talk to her and get it sorted.

Leave the furniture where it is but get her to go on Friday.

She is not your problem to sort out, and neither is her accommodation requirements.

CharityDingle · 27/08/2019 14:16

Good point above, she has saved a fortune staying with you. I don't know why she bothered to pretend to be asking to stay for the long stay this time since it seems she intended to do that anyway.
Her accommodation for the remainder of the course really really isn't your problem. I'm sorry I can't think of any helpful solution. You have gone above and beyond in hosting her, especially with being by now, heavily pregnant.
As regards her being infantilised, you said you didn't notice it until pointed out. It's easier for those of us outside the situation to see it. You see it happen sometimes in families also.

Anyway, time for new friends. You have to put yourself first now. Take care.

obligations · 27/08/2019 14:16

OP, can you dismantle the bed?

BlueBilledBeatboxingBird · 27/08/2019 14:19

I would never ever usually make this sort of suggestion but I honestly think that the kind of blunt straight-talking that is needed would permanently damage your friendships, and would not be something that I personally would have been up to at your stage of pregnancy. I wonder if you need to start having some labour pains, tell friends that you are going in for monitoring, and switch off your phone.

TeaForTara · 27/08/2019 14:21

Well, I don't think anyone who's followed this thread will be surprised that she's still there. Don't be embarrassed, OP - the only thing wrong with you is you are TOO NICE. Reply to mutual friends 1 & 2 that you are heavily pregnant, hot, exhausted, grumpy and CANNOT COPE with houseguests, however lovely. It's not about the space. It's not about the friend. It's about YOU. You are already coping with pregnancy and toddlers. You cannot cope with anything else on top.

Really, just say no. Get your DH to say it if you won't.

YippieKayakOtherBuckets · 27/08/2019 14:24

Yes, get DH to field calls now. 'Sorry, Wishing is feeling really unwell. The midwife says that she must rest and she can't speak to anyone right now. We're sure you understand.' Repeat repeat repeat.

PepsiMaxCherry · 27/08/2019 14:24

Op maybe shes there as you asked her to help with moving around furniture etc

EdtheBear · 27/08/2019 14:30

Don't go making up tales about labour pains. Have you babysitters lined up for the big day?

I think now I'd let her stay until Friday but I'd be getting the arrangements in place for the bed. And I'm deadly serious get her helping make arrangements for the new baby, sorting clothes, toys, anything that needs done.

I want to give you a huge hug.
No wonder DH is pissed off about guests if your hosting friends family / strangers you don't even know.
I think I'd be mighty peeved if DH offered my spare room to friends family. However you are where you are. Move forward and start building your barriers.p

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/08/2019 14:33

I’ve only just stumbled upon this thread and after reading all 19 pages I’m gobsmacked that your friend is behaving like this. She sounds incredibly selfish and self centred and I can’t believe she has the cheek to impose herself on you at 8 months pregnant and then still stay there when you’ve made it quite clear, numerous times, that you aren’t up to her visit.

People’s levels of rudeness baffle me sometimes!!

Cassandrainthenight · 27/08/2019 14:37

Dear Op, your friend's income might be lower, but your family's income goes on 4, about to be five people. Even if she earns five time less than you, she doesn't need tons of nappies or a seven seater or to have to book 2 rooms in a hotel when staying anywhere etc, she probably has more disposable income person than you do!

You are obviously a softie since people end up taking advantage of you but also I guess you are hiding your discontent too well. Don't hide it, why does it have to reach breaking point for you to reveal how you really feel? Your feelings are just as valid as so called friends' , but in this situation where your family life is suffering, your relationship with DH is on the rocks - maybe you can find the strength in the idea that your number one priority is your job as a mother, and you are failing your own children because you can't be a good mother when you have no headspace or privacy, and you owe it to your children to sort out your relationship with DH which you can't do with friend in the house.

Collect all her stuff and put it in the hall. The friend needs to grow up too, your help only enables her to put her adult life on hold. She's not gonna be homeless, she will defer the course, commute, find the same course in a location closer to her current home etc. None of it should be on your mind, it's for her to sort out.

greenwaterbottle · 27/08/2019 14:38

Hi df, we had the conversation about not hosting guests any more and I presumed you'd be making alternative arrangements, I did stress to you before you came that I could only hosts you til Sunday, but this hasn't had an impact on you.
I'm afraid the stress and having second friend texting me trying to sort out your arrangements is giving me stress which I can't accept due to the baby.
We need to start making our arrangements for the new baby and so I'm afraid I must insist you leave.

To other friend
I'm unsure why you're texting me to make arrangements for df, I've told her she couldn't say past Sunday, and have now banned all future guests as I feel I'm being taking advantage of. I'm upset that you've arranged that it would be better if she stayed here without discussion, especially as I've just hosted your family for you.

billy1966 · 27/08/2019 14:39

OP, I feel so sorry for you. Late stage pregnancy, having been so kind and supportive of friends and their families. To now find now that they are a bunch of selfish user's.

So disappointing.
I think people visiting is a huge imposition since having children, and only do it for my closest.

The idea that this woman could come to your house, stay several days whilst you have a child and are pregnant, and sit on her arse and not help out is appalling.

Your mutual friends are beyond cheeky.

Please mind yourself and get her out. She couldn't possibly really care for you and be so obtuse.

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