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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Toneitdown · 25/08/2019 23:41

If you're prepared to give away the bed for free then have you put it on Freecycle? It will be snapped up within the hour. There are plenty of people on there who are genuinely desperate for stuff

Ohmygoodnessreally · 25/08/2019 23:44

So is she still with you?

Cassandrainthenight · 25/08/2019 23:44

Proseccoinamug

You feel really sorry for her? Really really sorry?

There's a Russian proverb, "A simpleton is worse than a thief"
That's what this situation with a friend reminds me of.
Surely OP owes her kids (who she can't do a decent mothering job with if she's drained by her "friend") and her DH more than the friend? And if she's broken and divorced it'd also be no benefit for the friend, she's trying to leech(in a "unaware" way which apparently excuses everything) of the wholesomeness of the family set up.

OP, partner and kids haven't happened to your friend because you are her family
Why would she go out and make an effort to meet someone when she already has a cosy set up for her time off?

I say it all as a non-materialistic person, this is all very wrong and you are not helping her with your pity, it's basic psychology, you are making it worse for her in the long term. Don't lie to her, be kind, but put a stop to this arrangement, you can still be friends without her staying over, at least in the foreseeable future.

Andysbestadventure · 25/08/2019 23:46

OP if you're in the North West, I'll take the bed please! 😁 Inbox me haha!

leomama81 · 26/08/2019 00:11

My friends are as close as family, they really are. I wouldn't treat any of them the way OP's friend has treated her. As PP said it is supposed to be mutual. Where is the support for OP, in this incredibly important moment in her life?

I've had years of being the single childless friend, I have still been able to support my friends when they are at stressful/difficult moments in their marriages/ pregnancies etc. I also have anxiety (I take my meds). None of this is an excuse for OP's friend to act in such a one-sided manner.

Motoko · 26/08/2019 00:18

OP, has she gone to MF tonight?

EdtheBear · 26/08/2019 00:31

Op I'd phone British Heart Foundation and Shelter in the morning see which of them can collect the bed soonest.

If she is still with you, then please be making good use out of her. What you need moving to the top floor so you can get the office turned into a bedroom.
The toddler moved into the office.

Get her helping. Good for mental health to be busy.

Cassandrainthenight · 26/08/2019 01:10

I don't think this "DF" is going to be deterred by anything as simple as lack of a bed/room. I can see her letting herself in with an air mattress on her shoulders and setting up camp on the living room floor/landing/office/playroom etc, assuring OP she'd be happy with little. Any practical considerations she's likely to dismiss and try to assure OP that she only needs a tiny bit of floor space, she's ready to help practically etc
Her key needs to be taken off her and she needs to understand that it's not about a change in bedrooms, but about a change in outlook/family circumstances. It hasn't worked for OP's family from the start, but taken until now to break all the boundaries.

Don't make it about her maybe, explain that anyone staying interferes with currently fragile family dynamics and you and DH need your privacy in your own home. You are happy to see her outside the home when possible.

SurfingGiantess · 26/08/2019 03:18

Is she gone?
YANBU at all!!

cstaff · 26/08/2019 07:22

Please say you have your own house and peace of mind back.

Scarydinosaurs · 26/08/2019 07:39

I really hope she has now gone and you can give the headspace you need to your own relationship and welcoming the new baby to your family.

YANBU and she is a poor friend to put this on you.

PerkyPomPoms · 26/08/2019 07:40

Fingers crossed she’s gone

CodenameVillanelle · 26/08/2019 09:08

You'll have to deal with this with her at some point. I hope you can do it without damaging your friendship.

Mxyzptlk · 26/08/2019 09:11

Op I'd phone British Heart Foundation and Shelter in the morning see which of them can collect the bed soonest.

Just highlighting that, as it's a great suggestion.

OP has updated about the bed, but not about the friend so I'm guessing she's still there (?).

HeffaLump1 · 26/08/2019 09:26

I think that the mutual friend asking if OP can have potential CF (PCF) back, means that she has gone. The OP refused so no reason that PCF is with OP

Travis1 · 26/08/2019 10:39

Debra do furniture collections too

Cassandrainthenight · 26/08/2019 11:10

I doubt that charities would have staff available on a bank holiday, Facebook marketplace is good too.
However if there is a foldout sofa on the landing etc, that friend is not going anywhere. If it's explained as being about a lack of spare room or bed she'd just say she doesn't need a room, she'll be sleeping on the floor or whatever.
It needs to be explained to her that even if they had 3 spare rooms, anyone extra's presence is a strain now...

WhatchaMaCalllit · 26/08/2019 11:31

@WishingILivedOnAnIsland - Has your Actual Friend left yet? If the bed hasn't been collected do something about that today so that Actual Friend can't extend her stay.

I agree with the posters who have said that most other couples would be in therapy if one of them had a 'friend' who treated the marital home like a second home to them. It is not your DH's problem but I really feel for him. He may not be saying anything to you about this (so as not to hurt your feelings) but I would have no doubts whatsoever that this is an issue for him. He has had to put up with this woman dropping in, doing nothing, contributing to nothing and taking what she can when she visits.

I cannot state it any more plainly than this - Your anxious friend who comes to stay with you has over stayed her welcome. If she is visiting, she should firstly find a B&B or an AirBnB to say in so that she can visit and leave. This is not a relative doing this. This is an acquaintance to your DH that is doing this.

Did you ask him if he was ok with Actual Friend having a key to your house before you gave her a key??

Mxyzptlk · 26/08/2019 11:36

Life was different two years ago when I made the offer. I meant it at the time and for sometime after. It's just too much now.

If friend is still there, OP, remember this is what she needs to know, not details about your furniture and rooms.

Holidaysmoliday · 26/08/2019 12:59

Don’t get rid of your guest bed OP just so she can’t stay! n extra bed is a godsend with a newborn and toddler as you and DH can divide and conquer when they both have bad nights.

Has friend definitely taken her stuff and gone? She did she react when she had to go?

EdtheBear · 26/08/2019 14:09

I think Op needs to get the two toddlers into their own rooms before the new baby arrives. No point in having a guest bedroom if a toddler and baby are sharing the parents room.

Thornhill58 · 26/08/2019 14:40

Perfect opportunity to say I'm sorry but now with the baby due I won't be able to host you unless it's a night or two every other month.
Make sure she understand that you love her but you need the room with the new baby.

dustarr73 · 26/08/2019 14:54

@WishingILivedOnAnIsland is she gone or have you given in.

Emmapeeler · 26/08/2019 15:04

You sound lovely OP. But you are NBU to express boundaries as there is no way I could cope with such a regular house guest, and frankly also the extra stuff in my house permanently, Your marriage counselling was also a clincher for me. And the baby. Tell her that things have changed. She shouldn’t have booked a course before checking with you. 16 days is not just a few nights. Besides, for me, your kind offer would have meant ever few months overnight, if that. Not 2-3 nights every month (esp not spending the evenings talking about herself) when you have small kids.

CTRL · 26/08/2019 15:07

Come on OP - give us an update

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