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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
RebootYourEngine · 26/08/2019 17:30

Has she gone? And has she given you back the key?

Motoko · 26/08/2019 17:32

I bet she's still there.

FancifulFeathers · 26/08/2019 17:33

She’s totally still there isn’t she

Hunstanton · 26/08/2019 17:41

Wow you and your husband are incredibly accommodating and this friend is acting more like a close blood relative than a close friend.
I suspect that as you’re obviously a really kind and generous person that she now assumes her presence in your house is practically welcomed.
But you must absolutely be honest with her now and draw a line under all of this.
Honesty is without doubt the best approach here. And the great thing is you have lots of really valid reasons too.

MzHz · 26/08/2019 17:48

Bank holiday weekend - course starts next week, OF COURSE SHES ASSUMED THE WEEKEND IS THE FULL 3 DAYS.

Although the bed was supposed to be going on Sunday...

Be firm op, enough is enough

nuxe1984 · 26/08/2019 17:49

Work-related course usually equals hotel paid for by work!

BlueJava · 26/08/2019 17:52

Just say sorry but with the baby coming you need more space and time with DH. 16-20 days straight is way too long she needs to sort something else out. In future don't give people your keys or be such a pushover, I think to get into that situation is pretty ridiculous!

AnnieKenney · 26/08/2019 17:54

I have been in a similar situation to your friend as in needing somewhere to stay for a night or two about every 4-6 weeks although I have several hosts I alternate between. When I stay, I take great care to: help around the house; offer to cook a special meal (and pay for the ingredients), be aware of my hosts timetable (eg dont stay up late if they have work in the morning, ask when its most convenient for me to use the bathroom and dont linger, appreciate they may have limited time to do life stuff rather than always socialise with me etc); always ask in advance and make it clear I have alternatives if it isnt convenient so they have an easy get-out, engage positively with their children, ask if there are any errands I can run and with some hosts, bring my own supplies if needed (one doesnt drink coffee for example and I need my morning caffeine). I am fully aware that my collection of hosts are saving me a lot in hotel bills and I try to be suitably appreciative and make having me to stay an enjoyable experience not a chore. In my world that's how you treat friends.

Tistheseason17 · 26/08/2019 17:58

Is DF still there if bed not gone?

milliefiori · 26/08/2019 17:59

You live in her old home town. She must have other friends or family.

Just tell her that because you are close to your due date that you have to say no this time as you are shattered and need to nest quietly. If she takes offence she is a user not a friend.

Jamhandprints · 26/08/2019 18:06

Oh my gosh of course yanbu at 8 months pregnant. Just tell her "with baby due so soon we can't have any visitors at all this month, sorry, hope you find somewhere else!"

Jontomsam · 26/08/2019 18:08

Long time lurker here dying to know if DF has gone 🤷🏼‍♀️

1doctorwhofan · 26/08/2019 18:17

Dying to know if shes gone..

bevelino · 26/08/2019 18:21

OP, the DF, needs to appreciate that your life has changed since you made your original gesture. You need to place yourself and your family first and stop being so accommodating to DF, otherwise the arrangement could go on forever, with each visit becoming longer.

Jack80 · 26/08/2019 18:21

I would be honest and open and say you need time with your dh before baby comes and it's not convenient at this time for her to stay, you are feeling more tired and just don't feel up to visitors. You don't mind the odd weekend just not for 16 days before he baby arrives.

MidCenturyVintageWoman · 26/08/2019 18:32

What does she ever do for you? Friendships are not generally unconditional unless you are a doormat (says she who bends over backwards for everyone).

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/08/2019 18:36

I just had a call from the mutual friend who was going to put her up asking me to have her back instead because her husband decided he wants to work from home

Quelle surprise - sounds like she's got the measure of her too Hmm

You might as well face up to the fact she'll be there until you find the assertiveness to get rid of her. Only you can decide how long that'll be, but it won't get any easier as time goes on

EllenMP · 26/08/2019 18:38

'I'm so sorry, but we need to move Toddler into the spare room now that baby is almost here, so we don't have a guest room anymore." I hope we can still catch up with lunch or something when you are in town.". Your changing circumstances are a perfect opportunity to knock this on the head.

Littlemeadow123 · 26/08/2019 18:38

In this situation, you have to do the right thing for you.

You have the perfect excuse. It is not even an excuse, it is fact. You are eight months pregnant. (Its a bit cheeky and unreasonable for her to ask to stay for such a lengthy amount of time when she knows this is the case). Just tell her that you do not have the time or energy to play host, you are going to be busy preparing for your new arrival and she is going to make alternative arrangements. You can also say that you need the spare bedroom now that your family is growing, and that she'll have to find other accomodation or sleep on the sofa during visits in future.

You offered this room two years ago, your circumstances have changed now so you have no reason to feel guilty about asking her to stay elsewhere.

Motoko · 26/08/2019 19:01

So many people only replying to the first post. RTFT people!

SleepWarrior · 26/08/2019 19:08

Some people have a tough time taking responsibility for their situation and will go on leaning on others all the while others are happy to prop them up. To some extent we should be able to be like that for our friends, but a degree of give and take is required (and it's not always easy to realise you are just taking when your mental health is a mess).

Your circumstances, and that of your mutual friend, might force her to make a proper plan for herself rather than floating around living in two places.

You sound very kind about it all. Hopefully the friendship can be salvaged and she will get the kick up the bum needed to readdress her mental health etc.

Bugbabe1970 · 26/08/2019 19:38

She’s taking the piss now!

Ferret27 · 26/08/2019 19:41

Book mark

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 26/08/2019 20:18

OP is probably in the middle of a crisis meeting with the mutual 'friend' about who's going to be the lucky bugger who gets to host the delightful other 'friend' adultchild. I hope your DH has your back OP cos your 'friends' certainly don't. I hope I'm wrong and you've stuck by your guns and are currently chilling out with your feet up.

icelollycraving · 26/08/2019 20:39

Poor op. She sounds so kind and nice, I do hope you get rid (in the nicest way!)

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