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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

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EdtheBear · 25/08/2019 14:37

Op keep those big girl pants on "Sorry DF, mutual friend has said she's unable to host you. Here's the number for local B&B and here's Travel Lodge"

I'm liking your thoughts on moving the office to the top floor and children on your floor. Once baby is bigger id move eldest to top floor and keep two youngest on your floor.

CoolLikeOvie · 25/08/2019 14:41

Gobsmacked that she just comes and stays for days on end every month and doesn't think to help round the house Shock

Ijustdontcare · 25/08/2019 14:41

I really hope it all goes well for you OP. If this is a work course what's the betting she's claiming expenses from work for staying in a "hotel"

Henlie · 25/08/2019 14:47

Op - is there any reason she needed to come and stay at yours all over this weekend if her course doesn’t start until (I’m presuming) Tuesday? 🤔

obligations · 25/08/2019 14:54

I know it might be upsetting and painful, but as you do seem to love your friend and presumably want to salvage your friendship I think you need to 1. Let her know that it has all become too much for you due to your family commitments and 2. Gently suggest she sorts herself out in future rather than staying with people. You'll be doing her a favour and you will have a better friendship if you spend time together because you want to as independent adults rather than because she's staying with you (and you're finding that tricky). She sounds panicky and anxious but I think the only thing that will help her is if she manages to sort her accommodation herself and then you can see her when suits you both. Best of luck, you sound like you want to do the right thing by everyone but also as if you need to be able to focus on your new baby and family and yourself right now.

SauvignonBlanche · 25/08/2019 15:07

Oh dear, she does sound hard work!

EdtheBear · 25/08/2019 15:11

My other way of dealing with her this week would be to say Yes but move her into the downstairs room and get her helping to shift stuff around.
If she's going to say you might as well make use of her.

greenwaterbottle · 25/08/2019 15:11

When you get back start shifting stuff

NoSquirrels · 25/08/2019 15:12

The fact that mutual friend called you to discuss your friend means that for some bloody reason you are all pussyfooting around the original friend, as though you are all responsible for her?!

Well, the way I read this was that mutual friend is feeling guilty about her DH saying no, but also knows OP is a bit of a pushover/overly generous, so would cave and take the difficult conversation away from her. So I think mutual friend is a bit cheeky in this case!

Fingers crossed it gets sorted OP.

NoSquirrels · 25/08/2019 15:17

OP, main thing you need to remember is that she can book and pay for accommodation elsewhere. You’re not obliged to host her at all.

northernlites · 25/08/2019 15:44

@WishingILivedOnAnIsland great diagram
I can see how you house is a haven for all
I have packed my bags and ready to come for the week Grin

Your DF sounds like she has lost direction, she is not motivated to help herself and reliant on you to be her parent/mentor/friend/counsellor

She is also self absorbed as she is unaware of the impact she has on you and your space and on your family time, living her life vicariously through you

She will still be telling you how hard her course is whilst you are contracting me thinks

Motoko · 25/08/2019 16:01

Uh-oh, so Mutual Friend doesn't want her to stay, so she's trying to palm her back on you.

What are you going to say to DF, when she says she can't find anywhere else to stay, now that MF has said her DH needs the room?

Is MF's DH working tomorrow? If not, I don't see why they can't have her at least tonight and tomorrow night.

Motoko · 25/08/2019 16:02

Oh, thanks for the diagram! It does help to picture your house.

CTRL · 25/08/2019 16:06

OP I think you need to make it clear she can’t stay and needs to find alternative accommodation especially seeing that your selling the guest bed, your other friends can’t host her and she is mentally unstable.

And don’t feel bad about ‘opening that can of worms’ in your house.

OPEN THE CAN and if she doesn’t like what you have to say. I repeat - she can leave 🤷‍♀️

I get she’s your friend but you have more than enough going on and now your in the last few weeks of pregnancy before a new baby arrives; now is the time you should be resting and taking it easy and bonding as a family preparing for when baby arrives.

Not sorting your inconsiderate friend’s affairs. You have your own business to deal with.

CTRL · 25/08/2019 16:07

Lovely house by the way

Mxyzptlk · 25/08/2019 16:08

booking.com
Airbnb.co.uk

There's a couple of suggestions to start her off.

She knows about Google, yeah?

northernlites · 25/08/2019 16:11

If DF went on booking.com or Airbnb I'm sure she could find something swiftly,

I hope when she does leave she doesn't then still come round all day or all eve after course to suck you dry emotionally... you need to plan for this potential situation

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 25/08/2019 16:11

Get that bloody key back; enough is enough. Reading this has made me very annoyed. Why are you all pussyfooting round her?

^ this

Good point about the course not starting till Tuesday.

Also why on earth didn't she take the hint about you not letting her stay for the entire 20 days, CF indeed.
She's taking you for a mug, OP 😡

CTRL · 25/08/2019 16:12

And I’m not being rude as I’m sure you guys have a lot of wonderful years and memories of friendship between you both - but I have to say. This friendship does sound very one sided and I feel the most likely reason it has lasted so long is because your always there for her to depend on and rely on.

None of your other friends feel obliged to put her up (or even entertain her refusal to seek professional help for her anxiety) so I’m not sure why you do. As lovely as you are. It’s just not working anymore.

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 25/08/2019 16:16

When she tells you she can't go to the other friends house (because she will, along with 'I don't mind sleeping on your sofa') tell her you will look on Airbnb etc for her.

Oh and GET YOUR KEY BACK!

Silverstreaks · 25/08/2019 16:32

YANBU
8 months pregnant is reason enough.
Add to it all the other stuff and she's taking the p.
Tell her. She needs to understand.

redcarbluecar · 25/08/2019 16:40

As PP have said I think you just have to be honest with her. She hasn’t done anything wrong, so she deserves that honesty. I think your original offer was a bit over-generous but you live and learn!

CookPassBabtridge · 25/08/2019 16:47

Think both your friends are taking the piss, why on earth did mutual friend call you when she knows you can't have her. Well done for putting your foot down.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 25/08/2019 17:04

If this is how your 'friends' treat you, I'd rather have non at all.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 25/08/2019 17:27

Well done on saying something to Mutual Friend. I'm wondering why did you find it easier to put your foot down to Mutual Friend and not from the outset say something similar to Actual Friend about her not being able to stay at all?

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